1 00:00:02,959 --> 00:00:06,780 thank you 2 00:00:32,110 --> 00:00:25,050 [Music] 3 00:00:35,150 --> 00:00:32,120 yeah 4 00:00:37,549 --> 00:00:35,160 welcome back to cab Saturday baby 5 00:00:40,910 --> 00:00:37,559 because you know where we're going we're 6 00:00:43,490 --> 00:00:40,920 going to France to hang out with my man 7 00:00:46,610 --> 00:00:43,500 bob teeth but before we get to him the 8 00:00:49,010 --> 00:00:46,620 special guest let's say hello to the 9 00:00:50,690 --> 00:00:49,020 brother like no other my man the 10 00:00:53,209 --> 00:00:50,700 executive producer the technical 11 00:00:54,410 --> 00:00:53,219 director of this joint money Nathan good 12 00:00:56,330 --> 00:00:54,420 afternoon sir 13 00:00:58,729 --> 00:00:56,340 greetings everyone happy Saturday 14 00:00:59,930 --> 00:00:58,739 welcome to calling all beings man it's 15 00:01:01,549 --> 00:00:59,940 good to be here good to be here with 16 00:01:03,410 --> 00:01:01,559 this guy uh last time we talked with him 17 00:01:05,390 --> 00:01:03,420 in September so looking forward to 18 00:01:07,429 --> 00:01:05,400 catching up with him we were due we were 19 00:01:09,289 --> 00:01:07,439 due ironically I was at Barber at 20 00:01:11,149 --> 00:01:09,299 Kayla's race that weekend and now 21 00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:11,159 they've moved Barbara to May so next 22 00:01:15,530 --> 00:01:13,920 weekend uh she'll be a barber but uh 23 00:01:17,870 --> 00:01:15,540 actually I don't know maybe I will make 24 00:01:20,030 --> 00:01:17,880 the trip up there uh but before we go 25 00:01:23,030 --> 00:01:20,040 any further let's say hello to my sister 26 00:01:26,810 --> 00:01:23,040 from another mister the centering cam of 27 00:01:33,550 --> 00:01:26,820 this joint the soul of it just let your 28 00:01:38,030 --> 00:01:35,990 everybody on here got a sense of humor 29 00:01:40,429 --> 00:01:38,040 man it's not just me people we're trying 30 00:01:44,149 --> 00:01:40,439 now I can be serious I can't I can be 31 00:01:46,789 --> 00:01:44,159 serious right Nathan oh yeah I I yeah so 32 00:01:48,950 --> 00:01:46,799 serious there have been those times 33 00:01:50,630 --> 00:01:48,960 um so anyway this gentleman we're about 34 00:01:52,370 --> 00:01:50,640 to bring on 35 00:01:54,530 --> 00:01:52,380 um well you know what before we even do 36 00:01:56,810 --> 00:01:54,540 that let's do this man 37 00:02:01,310 --> 00:01:56,820 oh wait that was it 38 00:02:05,450 --> 00:02:03,889 there we go you catching it Nathan I I 39 00:02:08,690 --> 00:02:05,460 can see our guests laughing in the 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:08,700 background and off stage so this is so 41 00:02:15,170 --> 00:02:13,670 [Music] 42 00:02:17,809 --> 00:02:15,180 what's up 43 00:02:20,449 --> 00:02:17,819 I love it this brother 44 00:02:24,290 --> 00:02:20,459 many of us uh that are engaged in this 45 00:02:26,150 --> 00:02:24,300 topic from the US and the UK and we've 46 00:02:28,250 --> 00:02:26,160 made strong connections there thank God 47 00:02:30,350 --> 00:02:28,260 uh but you know what there are people 48 00:02:33,050 --> 00:02:30,360 from many many other countries that are 49 00:02:35,150 --> 00:02:33,060 uh into this topic uh thankfully James 50 00:02:38,210 --> 00:02:35,160 Fox brought to us about uh the 51 00:02:40,610 --> 00:02:38,220 Brazilians uh and and has made inroads 52 00:02:42,350 --> 00:02:40,620 there so that they know that we're we're 53 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:42,360 listening to them and we're watching 54 00:02:47,869 --> 00:02:46,080 them and they're engaged and um Vinnie 55 00:02:49,610 --> 00:02:47,879 obviously with the Colombians with Ash 56 00:02:50,690 --> 00:02:49,620 and and Priscilla was just down there 57 00:02:53,089 --> 00:02:50,700 with them 58 00:02:56,089 --> 00:02:53,099 well this gentleman right here has an 59 00:02:59,509 --> 00:02:56,099 Endeavor that hopes to bring together uh 60 00:03:01,869 --> 00:02:59,519 bring data from many many sources and 61 00:03:05,509 --> 00:03:01,879 funnel them into 62 00:03:07,250 --> 00:03:05,519 a central database where what our data 63 00:03:08,809 --> 00:03:07,260 set is not going to be well this country 64 00:03:12,110 --> 00:03:08,819 is this and that country has that and 65 00:03:15,050 --> 00:03:12,120 this country is this so um I I was 66 00:03:17,750 --> 00:03:15,060 honored that he made his presentation I 67 00:03:20,449 --> 00:03:17,760 got to see what it was all about 68 00:03:22,610 --> 00:03:20,459 um he became pretty well known after uh 69 00:03:26,210 --> 00:03:22,620 he had Lou Elizondo on his program so 70 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:26,220 he's a brilliant man from France uh he's 71 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:27,840 more well spoken than me but then again 72 00:03:33,410 --> 00:03:30,000 I guess half probably three quarters of 73 00:03:38,649 --> 00:03:33,420 Francis so uh party people put those 74 00:03:42,050 --> 00:03:38,659 hands together for Baptist freeze car 75 00:03:42,970 --> 00:03:42,060 hello thank you very much thank you for 76 00:03:46,009 --> 00:03:42,980 having me 77 00:03:48,050 --> 00:03:46,019 amen for Baptiste hey man amen welcome 78 00:03:50,869 --> 00:03:48,060 back 79 00:03:53,690 --> 00:03:50,879 what's going on brother I'm I'm sending 80 00:03:55,910 --> 00:03:53,700 you a real French tune so you can you 81 00:03:58,729 --> 00:03:55,920 can leave stuff with that one okay 82 00:04:01,550 --> 00:03:58,739 please do that yeah uh well you know you 83 00:04:03,289 --> 00:04:01,560 missed it last week I played two uh I 84 00:04:05,449 --> 00:04:03,299 what are those artists that I play 85 00:04:07,610 --> 00:04:05,459 they're they're sort of electronic music 86 00:04:08,990 --> 00:04:07,620 would we call that Nathan I played the 87 00:04:12,830 --> 00:04:09,000 last two times 88 00:04:14,750 --> 00:04:12,840 huh that spunk no no I'll I'll send them 89 00:04:16,969 --> 00:04:14,760 to you but I absolutely love these 90 00:04:20,030 --> 00:04:16,979 artists and I believe that they're both 91 00:04:21,289 --> 00:04:20,040 French and it's sort of it has singing 92 00:04:23,210 --> 00:04:21,299 in there but I believe it's all 93 00:04:24,830 --> 00:04:23,220 electronic music I don't care it sounds 94 00:04:26,990 --> 00:04:24,840 damn good that's awesome you didn't know 95 00:04:29,810 --> 00:04:27,000 about it anyway welcome brother how are 96 00:04:31,790 --> 00:04:29,820 you I'm fine thank you very much for 97 00:04:35,590 --> 00:04:31,800 having me on the greatest show on 98 00:04:41,150 --> 00:04:38,210 appreciate that this rides on us 99 00:04:44,210 --> 00:04:41,160 Baptiste we appreciate that no no and I 100 00:04:45,530 --> 00:04:44,220 speak by heart I feel like home here so 101 00:04:49,909 --> 00:04:45,540 thank you very much 102 00:04:51,350 --> 00:04:49,919 yeah um so uh so basically you know that 103 00:04:53,810 --> 00:04:51,360 one of the reasons that you know we're 104 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:53,820 get I'm glad you know we do Nathan will 105 00:04:58,010 --> 00:04:55,440 always ask me can you know we've had 106 00:05:00,170 --> 00:04:58,020 this particular individual on uh we'd 107 00:05:02,510 --> 00:05:00,180 like to bring them back on so we do like 108 00:05:06,590 --> 00:05:02,520 to have guests back on that we've had 109 00:05:09,170 --> 00:05:06,600 but uh this particular uh time is you 110 00:05:10,909 --> 00:05:09,180 know that you uh uh you you made a 111 00:05:13,850 --> 00:05:10,919 presentation about this endeavor that 112 00:05:15,590 --> 00:05:13,860 you have and you know what before we 113 00:05:18,189 --> 00:05:15,600 even get into that I'm I'm really 114 00:05:19,790 --> 00:05:18,199 curious to ask you 115 00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:19,800 is 116 00:05:33,170 --> 00:05:30,240 that you are what was that that 117 00:05:35,450 --> 00:05:33,180 beginning no not at all uh quite the 118 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:35,460 opposite I have no taste for that field 119 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:38,160 in particular I I like to I like 120 00:05:43,370 --> 00:05:39,600 knowledge I like to learn things but 121 00:05:48,110 --> 00:05:43,380 from any field what's pointed me towards 122 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:48,120 the UFOs what was my students uh so 123 00:05:51,469 --> 00:05:49,860 every couple I'm a teacher I'm an art 124 00:05:55,070 --> 00:05:51,479 teacher by trade and every couple of 125 00:05:57,770 --> 00:05:55,080 years I update my lessons and uh to 126 00:06:00,050 --> 00:05:57,780 update my lessons I ask them what they 127 00:06:01,909 --> 00:06:00,060 are interested in and in exchange I 128 00:06:03,650 --> 00:06:01,919 offer them that they can ask me any 129 00:06:04,850 --> 00:06:03,660 question they want and I will find the 130 00:06:08,629 --> 00:06:04,860 answer 131 00:06:13,310 --> 00:06:08,639 and the last time I did that was in 2017 132 00:06:16,490 --> 00:06:13,320 September 2017 and 80 of my students so 133 00:06:20,150 --> 00:06:16,500 that's around 300 students about the 134 00:06:22,010 --> 00:06:20,160 question what are UFOs so I looked 135 00:06:26,570 --> 00:06:22,020 around in the literature I could find 136 00:06:29,150 --> 00:06:26,580 which was dirt and I said to them it's 137 00:06:31,909 --> 00:06:29,160 nothing just a listener very pose of a 138 00:06:34,909 --> 00:06:31,919 brain don't worry about it and when a 139 00:06:37,370 --> 00:06:34,919 couple of months later December 2017 the 140 00:06:39,469 --> 00:06:37,380 New York Times published its articles 141 00:06:42,590 --> 00:06:39,479 so I had to go back to them and say I'm 142 00:06:45,529 --> 00:06:42,600 so I'm very sorry I was mistaken there 143 00:06:47,450 --> 00:06:45,539 is a reality on that phenomenon and I 144 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:47,460 will endeavor to find the answer because 145 00:06:51,710 --> 00:06:50,050 now I'm humiliated 146 00:06:53,990 --> 00:06:51,720 [Laughter] 147 00:06:57,230 --> 00:06:54,000 amazing you know 148 00:06:59,809 --> 00:06:57,240 in a like the overwhelming majority of 149 00:07:02,510 --> 00:06:59,819 the world's population felt that way and 150 00:07:05,150 --> 00:07:02,520 it's only a seminal event uh that 151 00:07:07,969 --> 00:07:05,160 changed that and and it was a tangent of 152 00:07:10,730 --> 00:07:07,979 the exact same event not that changed my 153 00:07:14,150 --> 00:07:10,740 belief that it was there but sort of 154 00:07:15,830 --> 00:07:14,160 empowered me to want to talk about it so 155 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:15,840 um I'm gonna I'm gonna pass you the 156 00:07:20,809 --> 00:07:17,280 money Nathan but before I do I want to 157 00:07:23,210 --> 00:07:20,819 welcome back somebody who was sick in 158 00:07:26,210 --> 00:07:23,220 the hospital uh she is our chat 159 00:07:28,430 --> 00:07:26,220 moderator Julie uh the jewel of Indiana 160 00:07:30,589 --> 00:07:28,440 as we call her who happens to be 161 00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:30,599 residing in Alabama so Julie welcome 162 00:07:35,510 --> 00:07:33,120 back thank you so much uh we're so glad 163 00:07:37,010 --> 00:07:35,520 that you're back and I hope to speak 164 00:07:40,270 --> 00:07:37,020 with you soon I'm glad that you smell 165 00:07:42,770 --> 00:07:40,280 bread I wish I was eating it uh 166 00:07:44,689 --> 00:07:42,780 anyway uh let me pass you over to the 167 00:07:47,689 --> 00:07:44,699 capable hands of the co-conspirator of 168 00:07:49,070 --> 00:07:47,699 cab money Nathan awesome uh yeah so 169 00:07:51,529 --> 00:07:49,080 Baptiste the last time we chatted with 170 00:07:55,430 --> 00:07:51,539 you is in September so it's been quite a 171 00:07:56,809 --> 00:07:55,440 long time always and you I every day I 172 00:07:59,629 --> 00:07:56,819 feel like you're posting stuff you're 173 00:08:01,850 --> 00:07:59,639 sharing stuff if you to me you seem like 174 00:08:04,370 --> 00:08:01,860 a tireless researcher but what's kind of 175 00:08:05,749 --> 00:08:04,380 going on since then what have you been 176 00:08:08,689 --> 00:08:05,759 working on and what's on the horizon 177 00:08:11,390 --> 00:08:08,699 we'd love to hear about it yeah sure so 178 00:08:14,749 --> 00:08:11,400 uh in France we have a public office 179 00:08:17,350 --> 00:08:14,759 about UFOs that is uh financed by the 180 00:08:20,110 --> 00:08:17,360 French NASA it's called Vegeta 181 00:08:23,749 --> 00:08:20,120 the the senior researcher of Japan 182 00:08:27,770 --> 00:08:23,759 decided to create in its own structure 183 00:08:30,710 --> 00:08:27,780 which is called UAP check the idea is to 184 00:08:33,949 --> 00:08:30,720 give the software design inside 185 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:33,959 vegetable accessible to the public but 186 00:08:39,889 --> 00:08:36,719 around that we want to build an all 187 00:08:42,350 --> 00:08:39,899 uncompassing projects to work on 188 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:42,360 increasing the level of quality of 189 00:08:48,350 --> 00:08:46,320 information regarding uaps so what I've 190 00:08:50,690 --> 00:08:48,360 been doing on Twitter and 191 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:50,700 it was quite an extensive work was to 192 00:08:54,769 --> 00:08:52,800 design a way to find any piece of 193 00:08:59,030 --> 00:08:54,779 information as soon as it was published 194 00:09:03,650 --> 00:08:59,040 and to find ways of automating that work 195 00:09:06,110 --> 00:09:03,660 so we are creating uh no software that 196 00:09:08,449 --> 00:09:06,120 is doing automatically that work of 197 00:09:10,329 --> 00:09:08,459 looking in the internet for reliable 198 00:09:13,370 --> 00:09:10,339 sources and then pull up the information 199 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:13,380 automatically so you don't have to go in 200 00:09:19,490 --> 00:09:14,959 10 different 201 00:09:21,889 --> 00:09:19,500 news new sites and they are all vying 202 00:09:24,410 --> 00:09:21,899 for to be the first to break the 203 00:09:25,910 --> 00:09:24,420 information whoever breaks the 204 00:09:28,790 --> 00:09:25,920 information we will relay the 205 00:09:30,530 --> 00:09:28,800 information so that's the main point of 206 00:09:32,570 --> 00:09:30,540 that part of the software 207 00:09:33,170 --> 00:09:32,580 another part will be 208 00:09:36,710 --> 00:09:33,180 um 209 00:09:38,449 --> 00:09:36,720 a personal research so you can do that 210 00:09:41,030 --> 00:09:38,459 when you have reliable resources but 211 00:09:44,269 --> 00:09:41,040 when you have an information right 212 00:09:47,690 --> 00:09:44,279 images from somebody unknown or somebody 213 00:09:49,970 --> 00:09:47,700 new with software can't recognize it so 214 00:09:52,730 --> 00:09:49,980 we will have a team that is designed to 215 00:09:54,949 --> 00:09:52,740 do my work that is to look for Reliable 216 00:09:57,230 --> 00:09:54,959 interesting piece of information and 217 00:10:00,650 --> 00:09:57,240 that's a planetary level right now as 218 00:10:02,930 --> 00:10:00,660 the search engine is designed to observe 219 00:10:05,750 --> 00:10:02,940 the language you are using it's limiting 220 00:10:09,170 --> 00:10:05,760 the answers to the language you are 221 00:10:11,389 --> 00:10:09,180 looking for so there is all work to do 222 00:10:13,250 --> 00:10:11,399 with different types of keywords in all 223 00:10:15,350 --> 00:10:13,260 the languages we use on Earth to look 224 00:10:18,710 --> 00:10:15,360 for information everywhere 225 00:10:21,710 --> 00:10:18,720 and we can then also do that in the past 226 00:10:24,590 --> 00:10:21,720 so once we told once we will have to 227 00:10:27,769 --> 00:10:24,600 teach the software to do that at the 228 00:10:30,350 --> 00:10:27,779 present time we can ask him to do that 229 00:10:33,170 --> 00:10:30,360 in the past and to look for specific 230 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:33,180 areas of information so for example any 231 00:10:38,110 --> 00:10:36,480 article that was between the 15 and 17 232 00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:38,120 April 233 00:10:44,990 --> 00:10:42,720 1974 with the word UFO inside on 10 234 00:10:47,750 --> 00:10:45,000 kilometers around that town and it will 235 00:10:50,930 --> 00:10:47,760 look for that information so that's the 236 00:10:53,449 --> 00:10:50,940 idea of that too so not only 237 00:10:55,490 --> 00:10:53,459 find the information but find the 238 00:10:56,990 --> 00:10:55,500 information everywhere and that every 239 00:11:00,290 --> 00:10:57,000 time 240 00:11:01,449 --> 00:11:00,300 wow wow that won't be enough that won't 241 00:11:03,530 --> 00:11:01,459 be enough 242 00:11:05,030 --> 00:11:03,540 that's incredible so and so you've been 243 00:11:06,350 --> 00:11:05,040 you've been kind of testing it out so it 244 00:11:08,509 --> 00:11:06,360 sounds like the things that I see you 245 00:11:10,550 --> 00:11:08,519 posting and sharing you're you're 246 00:11:12,590 --> 00:11:10,560 pulling from that engine that is in 247 00:11:14,750 --> 00:11:12,600 development that it's already working in 248 00:11:17,509 --> 00:11:14,760 some respect no I'm the I'm the test 249 00:11:20,269 --> 00:11:17,519 group so I'm trying my hardest to beat 250 00:11:23,690 --> 00:11:20,279 it and he's trying his hardest to beat 251 00:11:26,030 --> 00:11:23,700 me and we are fine tuning it as long as 252 00:11:27,410 --> 00:11:26,040 there is a difference between the two 253 00:11:30,050 --> 00:11:27,420 incredible 254 00:11:31,150 --> 00:11:30,060 so far this sounds like MotoGP today 255 00:11:34,370 --> 00:11:31,160 with 256 00:11:36,290 --> 00:11:34,380 Yaya and Mark Marquez uh trying as hard 257 00:11:37,670 --> 00:11:36,300 as to be one another and touching one 258 00:11:40,370 --> 00:11:37,680 another up a little bit 259 00:11:43,490 --> 00:11:40,380 um Deb you know you as a person who 260 00:11:46,670 --> 00:11:43,500 researches data and looks for archives 261 00:11:49,130 --> 00:11:46,680 and and places where information is is 262 00:11:50,990 --> 00:11:49,140 sort of hidden and and you found so much 263 00:11:52,970 --> 00:11:51,000 of it I I have to think that this is 264 00:11:55,910 --> 00:11:52,980 pretty intriguing for you yeah actually 265 00:11:59,269 --> 00:11:55,920 one thing I've discovered is that once a 266 00:12:02,870 --> 00:11:59,279 topic gets put out in the media it like 267 00:12:04,910 --> 00:12:02,880 almost pollutes Google like if you go to 268 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:04,920 Google you have to go like 10 pages in 269 00:12:09,230 --> 00:12:06,720 before you're getting that same thing 270 00:12:11,090 --> 00:12:09,240 over and over I cannot tell you how many 271 00:12:14,030 --> 00:12:11,100 gimbal pictures I have seen doing 272 00:12:15,590 --> 00:12:14,040 searches I'm very tired of it what 273 00:12:18,050 --> 00:12:15,600 happens though when I find things is 274 00:12:19,970 --> 00:12:18,060 it's like a back door like sometimes 275 00:12:23,389 --> 00:12:19,980 there's a website that's not even 276 00:12:26,930 --> 00:12:23,399 linking something but still has that on 277 00:12:28,850 --> 00:12:26,940 a page and you find something so I've 278 00:12:30,470 --> 00:12:28,860 been really on top of what Baptiste has 279 00:12:32,329 --> 00:12:30,480 been putting out because he's finding 280 00:12:35,810 --> 00:12:32,339 things that are much harder to find with 281 00:12:37,670 --> 00:12:35,820 Google right now and it's amazing so I 282 00:12:42,550 --> 00:12:37,680 really appreciate your work back Feast 283 00:12:48,170 --> 00:12:45,769 to design the world search engine by 284 00:12:49,250 --> 00:12:48,180 himself I'm only the test group in the 285 00:12:51,050 --> 00:12:49,260 operation 286 00:12:52,970 --> 00:12:51,060 and I wanted to come back to one thing 287 00:12:55,670 --> 00:12:52,980 that you said just just so I have the 288 00:12:58,670 --> 00:12:55,680 clarity on it so did I understand you 289 00:13:02,329 --> 00:12:58,680 correctly that the UAP check is a 290 00:13:06,350 --> 00:13:02,339 product of jaipan like that it's no no 291 00:13:08,210 --> 00:13:06,360 that's all uh microvial Will Made in 292 00:13:11,090 --> 00:13:08,220 large Parts but technology that is used 293 00:13:15,889 --> 00:13:11,100 by the Japan but the technology is is 294 00:13:18,110 --> 00:13:15,899 his so now we are offering that 295 00:13:20,930 --> 00:13:18,120 technology to everyone that wants to use 296 00:13:23,329 --> 00:13:20,940 it and the search engine is only a small 297 00:13:24,710 --> 00:13:23,339 part of the technology we have got it 298 00:13:27,710 --> 00:13:24,720 wow 299 00:13:29,269 --> 00:13:27,720 a shout out to uh all things unexplained 300 00:13:31,730 --> 00:13:29,279 our new homies are going to do that big 301 00:13:34,850 --> 00:13:31,740 round table with us these guys are so 302 00:13:37,970 --> 00:13:34,860 cool uh and in July uh they're going to 303 00:13:39,350 --> 00:13:37,980 do a a mega Roundtable with cab and 304 00:13:41,629 --> 00:13:39,360 hopefully there'll be like 10 of us on 305 00:13:43,190 --> 00:13:41,639 there it'll be ridiculous and uh we're 306 00:13:44,449 --> 00:13:43,200 all going to have a topic so everyone's 307 00:13:47,329 --> 00:13:44,459 gonna have to brainstorm for that 308 00:13:48,590 --> 00:13:47,339 episode so what's up party people uh 309 00:13:51,350 --> 00:13:48,600 thank you all we appreciate what y'all 310 00:13:52,610 --> 00:13:51,360 do as well very excited about that uh 311 00:13:54,530 --> 00:13:52,620 and Nathan man you gotta talked to 312 00:13:57,190 --> 00:13:54,540 noctivigent man we got to get one with 313 00:13:59,569 --> 00:13:57,200 them too those guys are awesome yeah 314 00:14:02,750 --> 00:13:59,579 they were so cool 315 00:14:05,030 --> 00:14:02,760 um Baptiste so it can you uh set 316 00:14:08,690 --> 00:14:05,040 something that you did for me was to say 317 00:14:11,210 --> 00:14:08,700 uh okay if somebody I'm a person and 318 00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:11,220 well obviously you guys knew that it was 319 00:14:15,129 --> 00:14:12,600 probably a person anyway although 320 00:14:18,850 --> 00:14:15,139 there's some question I have some doubts 321 00:14:22,250 --> 00:14:18,860 I'm pointing some doubts here 322 00:14:25,190 --> 00:14:22,260 I have some doubts here on the screen we 323 00:14:26,930 --> 00:14:25,200 do I think there is Thursday out but you 324 00:14:28,730 --> 00:14:26,940 know you you ran through for me what it 325 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:28,740 would be like if someone has a 326 00:14:32,449 --> 00:14:30,480 particular encounter and they want to 327 00:14:33,889 --> 00:14:32,459 report it and what happens at that point 328 00:14:36,110 --> 00:14:33,899 so I think that's a good jumping off 329 00:14:38,090 --> 00:14:36,120 point to speak about the technology yeah 330 00:14:41,269 --> 00:14:38,100 sure so but some of the parts of a 331 00:14:43,910 --> 00:14:41,279 technology made by Michael Bayo uh in 332 00:14:45,949 --> 00:14:43,920 inside the Japan they designed a method 333 00:14:47,930 --> 00:14:45,959 to cancel out buyers the problem you 334 00:14:50,750 --> 00:14:47,940 have when you are working with human 335 00:14:52,610 --> 00:14:50,760 intelligence is that humans have an ego 336 00:14:55,129 --> 00:14:52,620 humans have a brain and they interpret 337 00:14:58,610 --> 00:14:55,139 data and what you want is the pure data 338 00:15:00,829 --> 00:14:58,620 so you need to have a whole system that 339 00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:00,839 seems simple from the outside but is 340 00:15:05,870 --> 00:15:03,600 designed to cancel out any input you 341 00:15:08,930 --> 00:15:05,880 could add to the signal so we can 342 00:15:12,170 --> 00:15:08,940 extract only the information we need to 343 00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:12,180 be sure of what you sow the idea is that 344 00:15:17,090 --> 00:15:14,399 the software does that automatically and 345 00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:17,100 is perfectly transparent so it shows you 346 00:15:23,090 --> 00:15:19,680 what is the information collected and 347 00:15:26,210 --> 00:15:23,100 what it Compares it to so the witness 348 00:15:29,329 --> 00:15:26,220 can choose where the software is 349 00:15:32,410 --> 00:15:29,339 agreeing with him or not and the 350 00:15:36,290 --> 00:15:32,420 percentile of Correspondence between 351 00:15:39,829 --> 00:15:36,300 what the witness so and describes and 352 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:39,839 what the database can explain and then 353 00:15:46,550 --> 00:15:43,920 if the witness thinks Nothing fits the 354 00:15:49,129 --> 00:15:46,560 description of the software I can edit a 355 00:15:50,389 --> 00:15:49,139 full witness report and send into a 356 00:15:53,329 --> 00:15:50,399 grant investigator and the ground 357 00:15:55,730 --> 00:15:53,339 investigator as a full Consular bias 358 00:15:58,069 --> 00:15:55,740 Report with the citing and every piece 359 00:16:00,230 --> 00:15:58,079 of information we could gather 360 00:16:02,449 --> 00:16:00,240 it's a filter basically so that they 361 00:16:04,129 --> 00:16:02,459 they can say you know they may 362 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:04,139 legitimately think I don't know what 363 00:16:09,350 --> 00:16:07,680 this is and I it could be something and 364 00:16:11,689 --> 00:16:09,360 for that person this is going to offer 365 00:16:14,269 --> 00:16:11,699 them an opportunity for a prosaic 366 00:16:17,230 --> 00:16:14,279 explanation for what they saw before 367 00:16:20,090 --> 00:16:17,240 they say I saw something that is 100 368 00:16:23,509 --> 00:16:20,100 anomalous because we think that 369 00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:23,519 everybody knows you know I I think there 370 00:16:27,769 --> 00:16:25,440 is a portion 371 00:16:30,290 --> 00:16:27,779 I think that there is something in all 372 00:16:32,329 --> 00:16:30,300 of us and depending upon the length and 373 00:16:35,449 --> 00:16:32,339 breadth and the characteristics of what 374 00:16:38,509 --> 00:16:35,459 you're looking at can discern this is 375 00:16:40,129 --> 00:16:38,519 not something that is is man-made this 376 00:16:42,110 --> 00:16:40,139 is something that is I'm looking at 377 00:16:43,970 --> 00:16:42,120 something that's you know that's how I 378 00:16:46,550 --> 00:16:43,980 felt when I had my exciting when I was a 379 00:16:48,410 --> 00:16:46,560 teenager and I had no Aviation knowledge 380 00:16:50,509 --> 00:16:48,420 you know back then other than that I 381 00:16:51,769 --> 00:16:50,519 loved Aviation 382 00:16:53,569 --> 00:16:51,779 um 383 00:16:57,710 --> 00:16:53,579 so 384 00:16:59,810 --> 00:16:57,720 offer them that opportunity to see 385 00:17:01,210 --> 00:16:59,820 because they may not have decided what 386 00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:01,220 it is yet 387 00:17:05,390 --> 00:17:03,600 see something and be like oh this is 388 00:17:07,210 --> 00:17:05,400 this is Stone Cold this is Close 389 00:17:10,730 --> 00:17:07,220 Encounters go ahead my friend I'm sorry 390 00:17:13,730 --> 00:17:10,740 no I I interrupted uh that's very true 391 00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:13,740 because we have the statistical data 392 00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:15,839 from the witnesses because we've been 393 00:17:23,090 --> 00:17:20,640 doing that for since 1977. so when you 394 00:17:26,689 --> 00:17:23,100 have the data from the witness it 395 00:17:29,810 --> 00:17:26,699 accurate at 90 percent there is 10 396 00:17:32,510 --> 00:17:29,820 percent that is a mistake from the 397 00:17:34,010 --> 00:17:32,520 specific eyesight of the witness of the 398 00:17:37,250 --> 00:17:34,020 specific lightning of the time of the 399 00:17:40,970 --> 00:17:37,260 day but 90 is true the problem is that 400 00:17:41,870 --> 00:17:40,980 after the data that is recorded by the 401 00:17:45,470 --> 00:17:41,880 brain 402 00:17:47,690 --> 00:17:45,480 the mind trying to explain it it looks 403 00:17:50,690 --> 00:17:47,700 like a plane it looks like a balloon and 404 00:17:54,289 --> 00:17:50,700 that's when you have a modification of 405 00:17:56,270 --> 00:17:54,299 the memory to fit what the brain thinks 406 00:17:59,930 --> 00:17:56,280 it is because it's simpler for the brain 407 00:18:02,029 --> 00:17:59,940 to cover it with a simple explanation so 408 00:18:04,370 --> 00:18:02,039 the world problem we have is to cancel 409 00:18:06,169 --> 00:18:04,380 out that narrative that is created by 410 00:18:09,470 --> 00:18:06,179 the brain to explain the phenomenon and 411 00:18:11,930 --> 00:18:09,480 just get back to what it looked like but 412 00:18:14,390 --> 00:18:11,940 what it was 413 00:18:16,370 --> 00:18:14,400 that's amazing yeah the the key task 414 00:18:19,970 --> 00:18:16,380 here separating the signal from all of 415 00:18:22,490 --> 00:18:19,980 the noise and there undoubtedly is a lot 416 00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:22,500 of noise that is out there in social 417 00:18:26,330 --> 00:18:24,240 media if someone's saying they're seeing 418 00:18:28,190 --> 00:18:26,340 something they're posting about it uh 419 00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:28,200 how many videos have we all seen someone 420 00:18:30,890 --> 00:18:29,760 saying they think it's something but 421 00:18:33,049 --> 00:18:30,900 it's actually just the starlink 422 00:18:34,490 --> 00:18:33,059 satellites crossing the sky it's not 423 00:18:36,350 --> 00:18:34,500 that this was gonna is gonna help folks 424 00:18:38,330 --> 00:18:36,360 eliminate that and move it to the side 425 00:18:40,970 --> 00:18:38,340 and and leave hopefully the really good 426 00:18:44,330 --> 00:18:40,980 stuff the truly anomalous uh content 427 00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:44,340 left for us to analyze now is it um one 428 00:18:47,810 --> 00:18:46,080 question I have for you is is that is it 429 00:18:50,570 --> 00:18:47,820 like an app that will be on the phone or 430 00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:50,580 or on the web a wet website how is uh 431 00:18:55,610 --> 00:18:53,520 the user interacting with UAP check so 432 00:18:57,529 --> 00:18:55,620 it's a simple form you can go on the 433 00:18:59,150 --> 00:18:57,539 internet with through the website and 434 00:19:01,010 --> 00:18:59,160 you fill out the information it takes 435 00:19:02,570 --> 00:19:01,020 between 30 seconds to five minutes 436 00:19:04,610 --> 00:19:02,580 depending on the amount of information 437 00:19:08,570 --> 00:19:04,620 you collected and then you have 438 00:19:10,669 --> 00:19:08,580 automatically what is the results 439 00:19:12,110 --> 00:19:10,679 amazing and when will it be is it live 440 00:19:14,450 --> 00:19:12,120 now when will people be able to use it 441 00:19:16,370 --> 00:19:14,460 oh we're thinking via summer for the for 442 00:19:18,650 --> 00:19:16,380 this part of the software 443 00:19:20,930 --> 00:19:18,660 fantastic awesome we're close it's 444 00:19:23,570 --> 00:19:20,940 already working right now it's just very 445 00:19:25,490 --> 00:19:23,580 ugly it's like Windows 95 uh type of 446 00:19:27,590 --> 00:19:25,500 tool because we did not need to have an 447 00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:27,600 interface before it was just an internal 448 00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:30,960 software right right 449 00:19:34,490 --> 00:19:32,640 um that's fantastic well one question I 450 00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:34,500 have for you um I wanted you because I 451 00:19:37,909 --> 00:19:35,520 know you've thought about this a little 452 00:19:40,730 --> 00:19:37,919 bit so what do you think is going to 453 00:19:43,669 --> 00:19:40,740 happen when and if the topic becomes 454 00:19:45,650 --> 00:19:43,679 more mainstream there's been a lot of 455 00:19:47,450 --> 00:19:45,660 folks who've kept it afloat like uh you 456 00:19:50,210 --> 00:19:47,460 know our show as an example but a very 457 00:19:53,390 --> 00:19:50,220 small example of keeping the interest in 458 00:19:54,650 --> 00:19:53,400 this topic alive the the researchers I'm 459 00:19:57,710 --> 00:19:54,660 thinking of people like the David 460 00:20:00,590 --> 00:19:57,720 marlers who've got tremendous Archive of 461 00:20:02,390 --> 00:20:00,600 information about black triangles uh 462 00:20:05,690 --> 00:20:02,400 keeping that towards that flame alive 463 00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:05,700 until the wider sort of world begins to 464 00:20:09,289 --> 00:20:07,200 pay attention what do you see happening 465 00:20:11,090 --> 00:20:09,299 when that shift occurs do you see kind 466 00:20:13,130 --> 00:20:11,100 of a handoff occurring there do you do 467 00:20:15,950 --> 00:20:13,140 you see a greater institutional 468 00:20:17,810 --> 00:20:15,960 investment and awareness uh is the role 469 00:20:19,909 --> 00:20:17,820 that kind of small players have played 470 00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:19,919 will it just kind of fade away or will 471 00:20:23,570 --> 00:20:21,360 it be will there be a partnership what 472 00:20:25,730 --> 00:20:23,580 do you think will happen there 473 00:20:29,630 --> 00:20:25,740 I think there will be an historical 474 00:20:32,570 --> 00:20:29,640 retcon I think that the only way that 475 00:20:34,370 --> 00:20:32,580 Society will accept it is to say that 476 00:20:36,650 --> 00:20:34,380 they always accepted it and it was an 477 00:20:38,210 --> 00:20:36,660 illusion that there was stigma it's what 478 00:20:40,610 --> 00:20:38,220 happens when you have Scientific 479 00:20:42,289 --> 00:20:40,620 Revolution all of a sudden one day 480 00:20:44,690 --> 00:20:42,299 everybody agrees that there is a new 481 00:20:46,850 --> 00:20:44,700 paradigm in town and it was just the old 482 00:20:49,370 --> 00:20:46,860 days where people didn't think that way 483 00:20:52,370 --> 00:20:49,380 so that's what will happen and there 484 00:20:54,830 --> 00:20:52,380 won't be any trouble it will just be a 485 00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:54,840 shift for those like us that have been 486 00:20:58,789 --> 00:20:57,360 aware of what it was in the time but for 487 00:21:01,669 --> 00:20:58,799 most of the people that subject that 488 00:21:04,010 --> 00:21:01,679 doesn't even exist in their reality it's 489 00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:04,020 just that it will pop inside the reality 490 00:21:09,049 --> 00:21:07,200 one day the response well of course it's 491 00:21:11,210 --> 00:21:09,059 true I always knew that was true yeah 492 00:21:13,970 --> 00:21:11,220 that's right that 493 00:21:16,490 --> 00:21:13,980 I think I hear that now from people that 494 00:21:17,330 --> 00:21:16,500 that like about 24 months ago were like 495 00:21:20,289 --> 00:21:17,340 oh 496 00:21:23,570 --> 00:21:20,299 like absolutely Green Man absolutely 497 00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:23,580 stigma to give you an idea a statistical 498 00:21:29,630 --> 00:21:26,240 Point uh 499 00:21:31,630 --> 00:21:29,640 alphago I could concentrate every piece 500 00:21:35,570 --> 00:21:31,640 of reliable information 501 00:21:41,450 --> 00:21:35,580 in 10 tweets per week 502 00:21:46,850 --> 00:21:44,750 and yeah instrumentals it's tremendous 503 00:21:47,630 --> 00:21:46,860 thank you so much yeah I'm more out 504 00:21:49,130 --> 00:21:47,640 there 505 00:21:51,950 --> 00:21:49,140 um I want to get a question in from the 506 00:21:53,930 --> 00:21:51,960 chat uh this is our uh the host of uh 507 00:21:56,330 --> 00:21:53,940 actually they're the authors of uh they 508 00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:56,340 wrote a book The Bigfoot influencers and 509 00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:58,559 they also have a podcast uh Tim and Dana 510 00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:01,200 and they want to know uh I'll I'll win 511 00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:02,880 this too but I want to get Baptist if we 512 00:22:07,370 --> 00:22:04,799 witness a sighting what should we 513 00:22:08,270 --> 00:22:07,380 immediately write down slash log about 514 00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:08,280 it 515 00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:10,440 so what do you think that they should 516 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:12,960 should copy down uh when they see 517 00:22:17,210 --> 00:22:15,600 something about these so I will presume 518 00:22:19,789 --> 00:22:17,220 that they have a phone on them because 519 00:22:21,890 --> 00:22:19,799 that support that's our situations or 520 00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:21,900 everybody has a phone on inside so if 521 00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:23,360 you have a phone you have your GPS 522 00:22:27,289 --> 00:22:26,400 coordinates so you need to record your 523 00:22:29,330 --> 00:22:27,299 GPS 524 00:22:31,730 --> 00:22:29,340 you just go to Google map select your 525 00:22:33,610 --> 00:22:31,740 position and record the point you create 526 00:22:37,130 --> 00:22:33,620 on the map so that gives you the GPS 527 00:22:40,669 --> 00:22:37,140 then you take a picture of the wall 528 00:22:43,549 --> 00:22:40,679 field in front of view centered on the 529 00:22:46,669 --> 00:22:43,559 on where you sew the point we really 530 00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:46,679 need to have the field of view with the 531 00:22:52,190 --> 00:22:50,640 ground or pieces of buildings or trees 532 00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:52,200 somewhere so we can't find the 533 00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:54,480 restaurants don't try to estimate the 534 00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:56,640 elevation by yourself of a decent by 535 00:23:01,549 --> 00:22:59,039 yourself the human brain is very very 536 00:23:04,370 --> 00:23:01,559 bad at that even even trained military 537 00:23:06,890 --> 00:23:04,380 people are very bad advisor don't waste 538 00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:06,900 time doing that just take a picture with 539 00:23:11,690 --> 00:23:09,600 a wall field and pieces of ground and in 540 00:23:14,330 --> 00:23:11,700 the picture you put the point where you 541 00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:14,340 saw it and that's all we need as a piece 542 00:23:19,490 --> 00:23:16,799 of information inside the software you 543 00:23:22,010 --> 00:23:19,500 will have the same thing you will have a 544 00:23:24,730 --> 00:23:22,020 map you point the map you draw an arrow 545 00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:24,740 towards the point you are looking at 546 00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:28,320 you show how high were your was leveled 547 00:23:32,330 --> 00:23:30,720 your head to give us an inclination and 548 00:23:35,090 --> 00:23:32,340 then the software does the cross 549 00:23:37,850 --> 00:23:35,100 referencing with the databases 550 00:23:39,230 --> 00:23:37,860 that that is great stuff uh right there 551 00:23:41,210 --> 00:23:39,240 because I didn't I never really thought 552 00:23:42,770 --> 00:23:41,220 about that but yeah you need to like you 553 00:23:44,330 --> 00:23:42,780 said you need to see the area around it 554 00:23:46,430 --> 00:23:44,340 and then you could zoom in and get as 555 00:23:48,289 --> 00:23:46,440 close as you can after you capture the 556 00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:48,299 area and you know try to zoom in on what 557 00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:49,980 the object is the other thing is you're 558 00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:53,520 listening for sound and so if you know 559 00:23:57,289 --> 00:23:55,200 dirigibles don't necessarily make any 560 00:23:59,390 --> 00:23:57,299 sound but then if it makes a movement 561 00:24:02,029 --> 00:23:59,400 that is uncharacteristic a rapid 562 00:24:04,669 --> 00:24:02,039 movement in One Direction or another at 563 00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:04,679 90 degree angles that's something and 564 00:24:09,289 --> 00:24:06,480 and you're not hearing a correlated 565 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:09,299 engine noise or noise of some sort of a 566 00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:11,760 propulsion with it that is something 567 00:24:16,490 --> 00:24:13,760 that would get my attention right away 568 00:24:18,049 --> 00:24:16,500 uh and there's there's other things I'm 569 00:24:19,970 --> 00:24:18,059 not gonna you know in terms of light 570 00:24:23,270 --> 00:24:19,980 sources that I don't want to go into 571 00:24:24,890 --> 00:24:23,280 here uh but anybody can reach out to me 572 00:24:27,350 --> 00:24:24,900 and I can give you sort of the checklist 573 00:24:29,810 --> 00:24:27,360 that I would go through if I was looking 574 00:24:31,850 --> 00:24:29,820 at something to try to figure out if if 575 00:24:33,890 --> 00:24:31,860 it was anomalous beyond the the just the 576 00:24:36,010 --> 00:24:33,900 gut feeling but that's the main thing is 577 00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:36,020 do I hear something in is it moving 578 00:24:39,070 --> 00:24:37,919 uncharacteristically of what we call an 579 00:24:42,529 --> 00:24:39,080 aircraft 580 00:24:45,529 --> 00:24:42,539 moving at right angles starting and 581 00:24:49,610 --> 00:24:45,539 stopping quickly and no apparent sound 582 00:24:52,029 --> 00:24:49,620 associated with with that so anyway so I 583 00:24:55,310 --> 00:24:52,039 would I would opposed to that because 584 00:24:57,470 --> 00:24:55,320 there is also a counter by us so by 585 00:24:59,770 --> 00:24:57,480 restricting too much the amount of 586 00:25:02,330 --> 00:24:59,780 information you put in 587 00:25:05,149 --> 00:25:02,340 you are really limiting the number of 588 00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:05,159 rule cases that are happening so that's 589 00:25:10,210 --> 00:25:07,559 why in the in the software you have like 590 00:25:14,270 --> 00:25:10,220 10 to 15 pages that describe the event 591 00:25:16,850 --> 00:25:14,280 piece by piece of movement size shape 592 00:25:19,970 --> 00:25:16,860 colors movement of colors movements over 593 00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:19,980 crafts because every piece of these 594 00:25:25,490 --> 00:25:22,320 information is important to reach a 595 00:25:26,930 --> 00:25:25,500 conclusion afterwards so by it's really 596 00:25:29,690 --> 00:25:26,940 interesting your way of doing it when 597 00:25:32,330 --> 00:25:29,700 you have like 200 000 cases in a 598 00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:32,340 database and you want the really really 599 00:25:37,610 --> 00:25:35,039 good one you want the top 0.5 percent 600 00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:37,620 other cases so and that that's working 601 00:25:41,330 --> 00:25:39,360 but when you're working with human 602 00:25:43,789 --> 00:25:41,340 intelligence you really need to expand 603 00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:43,799 the funnel and then to work on each 604 00:25:47,149 --> 00:25:44,880 report 605 00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:47,159 you're absolutely right I'm sort of 606 00:25:52,250 --> 00:25:49,440 people a couple different podcasts I've 607 00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:52,260 been on they ask me what do I look for 608 00:25:57,230 --> 00:25:55,260 if I or what would I look for if I saw 609 00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:57,240 something to evaluate whether it was 610 00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:59,039 anomalous or not but you are right you 611 00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:01,440 need to widen out that funnel capture 612 00:26:06,529 --> 00:26:04,559 all the data and then let the experts go 613 00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:06,539 in and look at it and evaluate it and 614 00:26:11,390 --> 00:26:08,940 discriminate as Nathan said filter out 615 00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,400 the signal from the noise so yeah you're 616 00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:13,679 right I'm I'm thinking in a sort of a 617 00:26:17,570 --> 00:26:16,080 different context than uh that's two 618 00:26:19,789 --> 00:26:17,580 different methodologies for two 619 00:26:21,890 --> 00:26:19,799 different outputs thanks yeah 620 00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:21,900 um but let's go to Deb I don't I want to 621 00:26:25,970 --> 00:26:24,000 leave Deb how you doing girlfriend 622 00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:25,980 yeah I have a couple questions actually 623 00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:28,559 that I want to really touch on the first 624 00:26:34,430 --> 00:26:31,500 is we talked about partnership and kind 625 00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:34,440 of making this available to the public I 626 00:26:37,730 --> 00:26:35,760 know that there are countries that are 627 00:26:40,010 --> 00:26:37,740 just not getting recognized as they 628 00:26:43,010 --> 00:26:40,020 should be like you know Mexico has a lot 629 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:43,020 of um stuff going on and they have a lot 630 00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:44,880 of serious researchers that actually 631 00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:46,799 involve themselves with their 632 00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:48,960 governments you know Chile 633 00:26:54,289 --> 00:26:51,840 um Peru you know so it goes on and on so 634 00:26:56,750 --> 00:26:54,299 I wanted to know if any of those people 635 00:26:59,570 --> 00:26:56,760 from those organizations are working 636 00:27:03,529 --> 00:26:59,580 with you on this and the second part of 637 00:27:06,169 --> 00:27:03,539 that is will the results be public also 638 00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:06,179 uh what type of results 639 00:27:10,970 --> 00:27:09,000 um when you do all the analysis when 640 00:27:13,070 --> 00:27:10,980 people are reporting is that going to be 641 00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:13,080 available for people to see in return 642 00:27:19,850 --> 00:27:16,559 okay so for the first question we are 643 00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:19,860 currently briefing every Association and 644 00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,559 a research group we can find about the 645 00:27:26,750 --> 00:27:24,480 subject and the other planetary level 646 00:27:28,490 --> 00:27:26,760 that's that's why it's taking us so much 647 00:27:29,810 --> 00:27:28,500 time to reach out to everybody and to 648 00:27:31,549 --> 00:27:29,820 explain what we are doing to everybody 649 00:27:34,370 --> 00:27:31,559 because we don't want to Blind sign 650 00:27:37,010 --> 00:27:34,380 anyone and as you said there are a 651 00:27:39,289 --> 00:27:37,020 tremendous amount of groups that are 652 00:27:42,049 --> 00:27:39,299 looking into it right now and it's 653 00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:42,059 increasing day by day and indeed we have 654 00:27:49,370 --> 00:27:44,640 contact with almost the old Earth at 655 00:27:51,289 --> 00:27:49,380 that point and uh as what it is for the 656 00:27:53,870 --> 00:27:51,299 results yes so that's another part of a 657 00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:53,880 project so in the in your partial group 658 00:27:58,490 --> 00:27:55,440 project would be the scientific studies 659 00:28:00,409 --> 00:27:58,500 so all the data we can collect from the 660 00:28:02,269 --> 00:28:00,419 software will be available publicly for 661 00:28:04,970 --> 00:28:02,279 researchers evidently we will be 662 00:28:08,029 --> 00:28:04,980 protecting the personal information of 663 00:28:11,810 --> 00:28:08,039 the witness and we will Design specific 664 00:28:13,789 --> 00:28:11,820 tools so you can have a constant 3D map 665 00:28:15,769 --> 00:28:13,799 of all the sightings that are currently 666 00:28:17,570 --> 00:28:15,779 happening and different tools that 667 00:28:22,250 --> 00:28:17,580 allows you to scroll through different 668 00:28:25,610 --> 00:28:24,350 and Deb you're mentioning you had 669 00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:25,620 another question so if you have 670 00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:28,080 something else that you wanted yeah the 671 00:28:31,970 --> 00:28:30,240 second one was the results part but I 672 00:28:34,190 --> 00:28:31,980 guess I'm I will just throw this 673 00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:34,200 question out there and see how you'd 674 00:28:37,250 --> 00:28:35,520 handle it 675 00:28:40,669 --> 00:28:37,260 um a lot of people do report having 676 00:28:42,350 --> 00:28:40,679 personal physical experiences with uavs 677 00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:42,360 and I was just wondering if you're going 678 00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:45,360 to touch on that experience or aspect or 679 00:28:50,930 --> 00:28:47,039 if it's just going to be about seeing 680 00:28:54,049 --> 00:28:50,940 the object so right now it's a UAP check 681 00:28:56,090 --> 00:28:54,059 so we are checking what is pretty much a 682 00:28:58,370 --> 00:28:56,100 nail phenomena that is right in the 683 00:29:00,169 --> 00:28:58,380 environment of a witness and we have a 684 00:29:02,710 --> 00:29:00,179 specificity in France we have one 685 00:29:06,289 --> 00:29:02,720 Association that is called the zero 686 00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:06,299 c-e-r-o that is giving psychological 687 00:29:10,490 --> 00:29:08,760 support to close encounter witness and 688 00:29:12,010 --> 00:29:10,500 we have a war Laboratories discovered 689 00:29:13,630 --> 00:29:12,020 CSA 690 00:29:16,850 --> 00:29:13,640 Circe 691 00:29:19,490 --> 00:29:16,860 that is a state-funded laboratory that 692 00:29:22,669 --> 00:29:19,500 is giving also psychological herbs to 693 00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:24,769 I love that so so basically you're not 694 00:29:31,610 --> 00:29:28,559 set up yet to deal with experiencers and 695 00:29:33,470 --> 00:29:31,620 that sort of uh the the narratives and 696 00:29:35,810 --> 00:29:33,480 the unpacking of of those sorts of 697 00:29:38,450 --> 00:29:35,820 experiences am I am I do I have that 698 00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:38,460 right that's not where our expertise 699 00:29:44,090 --> 00:29:41,279 lies okay so there you go I mean that's 700 00:29:46,669 --> 00:29:44,100 that's a great thing right there 701 00:29:49,490 --> 00:29:46,679 um so I I was going to ask you a 702 00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:49,500 Baptiste in terms of 703 00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:50,340 um 704 00:29:55,130 --> 00:29:53,039 say this taking the temperature of 705 00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:55,140 France and you know one of the reasons 706 00:30:00,950 --> 00:29:58,080 is because we you are sort of our link 707 00:30:03,769 --> 00:30:00,960 to France at this point I hope that some 708 00:30:05,930 --> 00:30:03,779 of your colleagues and and uh 709 00:30:08,510 --> 00:30:05,940 compatriots and friends will come out 710 00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:08,520 and and by the way you can sort of send 711 00:30:12,590 --> 00:30:10,320 them over to speak with us because we we 712 00:30:14,990 --> 00:30:12,600 do want to get more engagement from 713 00:30:17,149 --> 00:30:15,000 people like I said beyond just you know 714 00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:17,159 the couple of countries that were that 715 00:30:21,409 --> 00:30:18,720 are contributing and we know that 716 00:30:23,630 --> 00:30:21,419 they're out there but where do you see 717 00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:23,640 your country France at right now in 718 00:30:28,250 --> 00:30:25,919 terms of this topic when you do you when 719 00:30:30,889 --> 00:30:28,260 you speak in public about it with uh or 720 00:30:33,230 --> 00:30:30,899 in you know parties or so forth with 721 00:30:35,090 --> 00:30:33,240 colleagues what is what are you what's 722 00:30:38,330 --> 00:30:35,100 your assessment of what we're looking at 723 00:30:41,210 --> 00:30:38,340 now so it changes a lot in the last two 724 00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:41,220 years you really you know yourself in 725 00:30:46,909 --> 00:30:45,120 every newspaper that is uh publishing an 726 00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:46,919 article about it there is no jokes 727 00:30:51,409 --> 00:30:49,919 anymore nowhere to be found so and it's 728 00:30:55,130 --> 00:30:51,419 quite impressive see because as French 729 00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:55,140 we love to ridicule so it's very very 730 00:31:00,769 --> 00:30:57,840 extreme to see that in just two years 731 00:31:04,130 --> 00:31:00,779 all the jokes disappeared and you only 732 00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:04,140 have them when somebody is asked on the 733 00:31:11,570 --> 00:31:08,159 TV on the TV and he hasn't prepared an 734 00:31:13,970 --> 00:31:11,580 answer so he tries to to to cancel out 735 00:31:15,950 --> 00:31:13,980 the question by a joke but even then the 736 00:31:18,169 --> 00:31:15,960 journalist launches back the question 737 00:31:20,750 --> 00:31:18,179 and wants to have an answer so it's 738 00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:20,760 quite interesting but we don't have a 739 00:31:25,549 --> 00:31:22,799 culture you have in the us where we talk 740 00:31:27,409 --> 00:31:25,559 about problems so as long as the US will 741 00:31:29,930 --> 00:31:27,419 be the one talking out loud about it 742 00:31:31,730 --> 00:31:29,940 there is just no interest for France to 743 00:31:33,889 --> 00:31:31,740 talk about it because you are taking all 744 00:31:36,110 --> 00:31:33,899 the risk and all the heat for it so we 745 00:31:38,810 --> 00:31:36,120 will be following as long as you are 746 00:31:41,389 --> 00:31:38,820 willing to talk about it if you reach 747 00:31:46,090 --> 00:31:41,399 our Disclosure by yourself very well and 748 00:31:49,070 --> 00:31:46,100 then if you fail we will take the the 749 00:31:50,690 --> 00:31:49,080 next position and we will try to reach 750 00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:50,700 out to a disclosure 751 00:31:55,490 --> 00:31:53,039 yeah this is very much uh if you had 752 00:31:57,049 --> 00:31:55,500 these a very very similar design to the 753 00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:57,059 Wright brothers and you were aware of it 754 00:32:01,010 --> 00:31:58,799 it's like hey let them go out and flight 755 00:32:02,690 --> 00:32:01,020 test out on Kill Devil Hills see how 756 00:32:05,529 --> 00:32:02,700 they do and if then they do we'll go 757 00:32:08,450 --> 00:32:05,539 we'll go run our test you know 758 00:32:10,490 --> 00:32:08,460 you also need to consider but we are 759 00:32:12,590 --> 00:32:10,500 different countries so we are not sure 760 00:32:15,409 --> 00:32:12,600 that all the craft we are witnessing 761 00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:15,419 aren't American prototypes of a 762 00:32:20,210 --> 00:32:17,940 breakthrough technology so we had to be 763 00:32:23,630 --> 00:32:20,220 kosher we have to be cautious too 764 00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:23,640 yeah now I I've I've spoke uh at length 765 00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:25,919 about sovereignty a lot of people think 766 00:32:30,830 --> 00:32:28,320 that the United States is controlling 767 00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:30,840 what other countries are doing and that 768 00:32:35,090 --> 00:32:32,640 really belies the notion of sovereignty 769 00:32:38,510 --> 00:32:35,100 particularly when unless you have a 770 00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:38,520 country who's you know their domestic uh 771 00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:40,799 you know product is dependent upon U.S 772 00:32:44,930 --> 00:32:43,440 Aid to you know to survive and and 773 00:32:46,970 --> 00:32:44,940 France is certainly not one of those 774 00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:46,980 countries so 775 00:32:51,409 --> 00:32:49,620 um so I have a question from the arrow 776 00:32:52,909 --> 00:32:51,419 gentleman here and this one is off the 777 00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:52,919 cuff has nothing to do with what we've 778 00:32:56,510 --> 00:32:54,840 been talking about today but I think we 779 00:32:59,810 --> 00:32:56,520 can get Baptiste and everybody else to 780 00:33:02,269 --> 00:32:59,820 react to it is Bob lazar's UFO story 781 00:33:05,210 --> 00:33:02,279 true or false Baptiste you first and 782 00:33:08,269 --> 00:33:05,220 then we'll go Deb and Nathan or Nathan 783 00:33:10,909 --> 00:33:08,279 it's unproven 784 00:33:12,289 --> 00:33:10,919 what do you your if your gut feeling 785 00:33:14,450 --> 00:33:12,299 your opinion 786 00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:14,460 but I don't care about it it's unproven 787 00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:17,279 there is nothing to prove it oh very 788 00:33:22,009 --> 00:33:19,320 data driven I love it look at this man 789 00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:22,019 we got another TJ Allard in here Nathan 790 00:33:26,750 --> 00:33:24,000 yeah I um 791 00:33:29,330 --> 00:33:26,760 I mean it's fascinating right the the 792 00:33:32,090 --> 00:33:29,340 George Knapp the story and the 80s and 793 00:33:34,190 --> 00:33:32,100 uh some facts that uh later turned out 794 00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,200 to be true but he's certainly super 795 00:33:39,049 --> 00:33:36,960 controversial uh figure 796 00:33:41,570 --> 00:33:39,059 um so I think as Baptist is alluding to 797 00:33:42,769 --> 00:33:41,580 it's there's there's so much 798 00:33:44,810 --> 00:33:42,779 um 799 00:33:46,430 --> 00:33:44,820 there's so many confusing aspects to the 800 00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:46,440 story that it's difficult to say this 801 00:33:51,649 --> 00:33:48,960 has a lot of at least right now a lot of 802 00:33:53,389 --> 00:33:51,659 validity uh that we can kind of hang our 803 00:33:55,850 --> 00:33:53,399 head on that 804 00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:55,860 um like a lot of things in the UFO lore 805 00:34:01,549 --> 00:33:58,559 it it is fraught with some confusing 806 00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:01,559 elements that make it difficult to parse 807 00:34:06,590 --> 00:34:04,799 uh truth from fiction so I don't know 808 00:34:08,329 --> 00:34:06,600 it'll be interesting and certainly I 809 00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:08,339 will credit Bob Lazar for getting a lot 810 00:34:12,589 --> 00:34:11,280 of folks interested in the topic uh so 811 00:34:14,450 --> 00:34:12,599 at the end of the day whether it's true 812 00:34:17,149 --> 00:34:14,460 or not it's certainly gotten a lot of 813 00:34:19,849 --> 00:34:17,159 attention and I tend to think that that 814 00:34:21,710 --> 00:34:19,859 is a net positive overall 815 00:34:24,109 --> 00:34:21,720 that's a great Point I've never heard 816 00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:24,119 that pointed out before people just look 817 00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:27,599 at the edit it look at Nathan to sort of 818 00:34:31,790 --> 00:34:30,000 color between the go outside the lines 819 00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:31,800 there say it's either true or it's false 820 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:33,839 well this is you know Nathan likes to 821 00:34:38,270 --> 00:34:36,000 find what's positive about a person or 822 00:34:40,190 --> 00:34:38,280 situation and he was just able to do it 823 00:34:42,109 --> 00:34:40,200 right there and extract something 824 00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:42,119 positive out of Lazar whether you 825 00:34:45,950 --> 00:34:43,440 believe him or not more people are 826 00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:45,960 talking about it Debs 827 00:34:50,690 --> 00:34:47,760 so 828 00:34:52,250 --> 00:34:50,700 I this one's tough for me because I 829 00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:52,260 don't like to say negative things about 830 00:34:57,290 --> 00:34:53,359 people 831 00:35:00,290 --> 00:34:57,300 but I will say that I am aware of his 832 00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:00,300 background not beings very solid and I 833 00:35:04,490 --> 00:35:03,060 am aware of some of his friends and what 834 00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:04,500 their motives might have been for the 835 00:35:09,650 --> 00:35:06,720 story to get out 836 00:35:11,930 --> 00:35:09,660 um so that kind of changes my view of 837 00:35:15,530 --> 00:35:11,940 what he's presenting but I want to 838 00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:15,540 clarify that when the Avro car was being 839 00:35:21,890 --> 00:35:18,960 made people did come out and say I saw 840 00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:21,900 you know saucers inside with the U.S 841 00:35:27,230 --> 00:35:24,300 government and no one believed them so 842 00:35:29,569 --> 00:35:27,240 whether or not he saw something or how 843 00:35:33,410 --> 00:35:29,579 he worked there who knows don't know 844 00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:33,420 there might be some element of Truth to 845 00:35:38,990 --> 00:35:35,760 what he's saying is what I'm willing to 846 00:35:42,290 --> 00:35:41,150 oh that's that's very fair and I've 847 00:35:43,849 --> 00:35:42,300 always said to people there's nothing 848 00:35:45,950 --> 00:35:43,859 wrong with saying you know what the 849 00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:45,960 story doesn't resonate with me I I don't 850 00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:49,680 believe it and that's acceptable then 851 00:35:53,630 --> 00:35:51,839 rather going into launching what some 852 00:35:55,970 --> 00:35:53,640 people will do is they'll launch into an 853 00:35:57,530 --> 00:35:55,980 entire tirade tearing apart the person 854 00:35:58,849 --> 00:35:57,540 from top to bottom which you really 855 00:36:00,650 --> 00:35:58,859 don't need to do you can just say I 856 00:36:02,650 --> 00:36:00,660 don't believe it or I don't believe him 857 00:36:05,930 --> 00:36:02,660 for me personally 858 00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,940 looking at all of the evidence that I've 859 00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:07,440 heard not looking at his character 860 00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:11,040 because you don't know how many uh of 861 00:36:15,770 --> 00:36:13,440 these guys uh that work at classified 862 00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:15,780 facilities or at strip clubs and doing 863 00:36:19,970 --> 00:36:17,760 God knows what 864 00:36:22,609 --> 00:36:19,980 um it's it's not like they don't have 865 00:36:24,109 --> 00:36:22,619 regular lives and and you don't know 866 00:36:27,050 --> 00:36:24,119 what they do when they're when they're 867 00:36:29,390 --> 00:36:27,060 not on site what I would say is in my 868 00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:29,400 opinion there is enough 869 00:36:35,650 --> 00:36:32,640 uh evidence that he worked at a couple 870 00:36:37,849 --> 00:36:35,660 of the places that he worked I know that 871 00:36:41,210 --> 00:36:37,859 particularly at the time frame of the 872 00:36:44,510 --> 00:36:41,220 80s I know from my own college that I 873 00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:44,520 went to that if a federal uh agent went 874 00:36:49,550 --> 00:36:46,380 in there and said give me these records 875 00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:49,560 uh paper they would disappear 876 00:36:53,390 --> 00:36:51,119 um if if that's what they wanted to 877 00:36:56,030 --> 00:36:53,400 happen and I'm not a con anybody here 878 00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:56,040 can tell you I'm not conspiracy theorist 879 00:37:02,569 --> 00:36:59,760 so I think that there he I have heard 880 00:37:05,089 --> 00:37:02,579 enough based on Eugene G based on some 881 00:37:08,930 --> 00:37:05,099 of the procedures for 882 00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:08,940 um getting onboarded at a place like the 883 00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:11,520 Groom Lake test facility or Air Force 884 00:37:16,190 --> 00:37:13,920 debt three whatever it's called over 885 00:37:18,109 --> 00:37:16,200 there at Groom Lake there's enough of 886 00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:18,119 that to lead me to believe that he 887 00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:19,500 probably worked there and he probably 888 00:37:25,550 --> 00:37:23,520 saw Nick saw something uh 889 00:37:27,230 --> 00:37:25,560 and you know you have people like George 890 00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:27,240 Knapp that that brought it out there and 891 00:37:32,510 --> 00:37:29,760 I don't think that he would make up a 892 00:37:34,250 --> 00:37:32,520 story I to become famous or anything 893 00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:34,260 like that I think 894 00:37:38,450 --> 00:37:36,000 um he did a lot of background checking 895 00:37:40,970 --> 00:37:38,460 and figured out that this guy worked 896 00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:40,980 there what he saw when when he worked 897 00:37:45,470 --> 00:37:43,680 there nobody knows unless you work there 898 00:37:48,050 --> 00:37:45,480 you won't have any idea what he saw 899 00:37:50,750 --> 00:37:48,060 could he have fabricated what he saw 900 00:37:52,970 --> 00:37:50,760 there yes but the fact that he worked 901 00:37:54,829 --> 00:37:52,980 there uh and then when you listen to 902 00:37:57,410 --> 00:37:54,839 people like Rick Doty who also worked 903 00:38:00,050 --> 00:37:57,420 there and said that there is some 904 00:38:03,710 --> 00:38:00,060 um he did not get into the area where 905 00:38:06,890 --> 00:38:03,720 Bob supposedly worked uh but that there 906 00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:06,900 is a um uh he did see some things that 907 00:38:11,390 --> 00:38:08,880 he could not explain in the couple of 908 00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:11,400 tdys he did out there so 909 00:38:15,650 --> 00:38:13,200 um I think there's a good portion of 910 00:38:18,890 --> 00:38:15,660 that are true his care his personal 911 00:38:22,930 --> 00:38:18,900 character notwithstanding 912 00:38:30,829 --> 00:38:25,790 I will I will add something on that 913 00:38:32,990 --> 00:38:30,839 so what I really like uh timelines and 914 00:38:35,810 --> 00:38:33,000 um what always interested me is that 915 00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:35,820 Liza came out in H2 if I remember well 916 00:38:43,849 --> 00:38:41,040 I'm talking about Area 51 and before you 917 00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:43,859 have 51 what was the main interest of 918 00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:46,079 the UFO Community when they were looking 919 00:38:51,530 --> 00:38:48,720 for Crush retrievals 920 00:38:53,290 --> 00:38:51,540 uh what right Patterson Roswell 921 00:38:56,030 --> 00:38:53,300 right about this on the Air Force Base 922 00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:56,040 it was where the Blue Book Project was I 923 00:39:02,690 --> 00:38:59,280 said including its secret parts and 924 00:39:05,870 --> 00:39:02,700 since then the shift has always been on 925 00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:05,880 area 51. and in intelligence we call 926 00:39:12,109 --> 00:39:08,640 that magic trick you you show a light 927 00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:12,119 here so people don't look here 928 00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:13,680 well let's talk about that for a second 929 00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:16,560 so if you want a flight test something 930 00:39:25,130 --> 00:39:18,540 that 931 00:39:28,370 --> 00:39:25,140 launch test flights out of suburban 932 00:39:31,310 --> 00:39:28,380 Southern Ohio in Dayton no you you can't 933 00:39:34,190 --> 00:39:31,320 do that so you have to earmark a place 934 00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:34,200 that's so far out of the way and then 935 00:39:39,470 --> 00:39:36,900 you have to restrict airspace around it 936 00:39:42,050 --> 00:39:39,480 so that as a commercial airliner you 937 00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:42,060 can't even fly over this airspace 938 00:39:46,910 --> 00:39:45,359 so you can't get there over the air you 939 00:39:49,310 --> 00:39:46,920 can't get there on the ground and that's 940 00:39:52,030 --> 00:39:49,320 where you would conduct any I would want 941 00:39:55,010 --> 00:39:52,040 to test anything that flies is somewhere 942 00:39:57,650 --> 00:39:55,020 where it is very difficult for the 943 00:39:59,930 --> 00:39:57,660 public to see it which is why when they 944 00:40:01,490 --> 00:39:59,940 talk about like the Calvin incident and 945 00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:01,500 they're you know launching it out over 946 00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:03,119 over Scotland where there's Villages 947 00:40:06,410 --> 00:40:04,440 right around there that's not something 948 00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:06,420 you would really want to do I'm sorry go 949 00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:07,200 ahead 950 00:40:13,010 --> 00:40:09,680 yes but you are talking here about 951 00:40:15,410 --> 00:40:13,020 man-made crafts man-made crafts are the 952 00:40:17,690 --> 00:40:15,420 signature they are real you you can see 953 00:40:20,750 --> 00:40:17,700 them you can hear them the crash 954 00:40:25,069 --> 00:40:20,760 retrievals units we are talking out by 955 00:40:27,650 --> 00:40:25,079 Design ourselves Beyond any extent that 956 00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:27,660 we are right now and it was already 957 00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:31,440 itself 70 years ago so you can learn 958 00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:34,800 them and use them whenever you want 959 00:40:40,910 --> 00:40:37,200 well if you have if you have an area 960 00:40:43,370 --> 00:40:40,920 like Dayton Ohio for example and you 961 00:40:46,870 --> 00:40:43,380 have a craft lift up to about 500 foot 962 00:40:49,730 --> 00:40:46,880 AGL I mean you have people for Miles 963 00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:49,740 that can see whatever that is like let 964 00:40:54,530 --> 00:40:51,359 let's say that he's telling the truth 965 00:40:57,650 --> 00:40:54,540 and I and and someone was able to test 966 00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:57,660 some sort of a saucer you know and and 967 00:41:01,550 --> 00:40:59,280 was able to I don't know that that 968 00:41:03,170 --> 00:41:01,560 happened you know that's a whole 969 00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:03,180 discussion in itself and we'll never 970 00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:05,760 we'll never know until we know so to 971 00:41:09,470 --> 00:41:07,920 speak uh whether they were able to put a 972 00:41:11,089 --> 00:41:09,480 human inside one of these craft and 973 00:41:14,030 --> 00:41:11,099 actually fly it right 974 00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:14,040 oh you had design at the time but you 975 00:41:18,349 --> 00:41:15,839 are really looking towards it you have 976 00:41:21,470 --> 00:41:18,359 the Russian thermal plan and you have as 977 00:41:23,930 --> 00:41:21,480 Deb said the Avro you could really make 978 00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:23,940 people think that it was UFOs you even 979 00:41:30,050 --> 00:41:27,119 have favor uh describing events where he 980 00:41:35,050 --> 00:41:30,060 was doing nighttime flights above the 981 00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:35,060 desert uh locating uh ground uh 982 00:41:41,810 --> 00:41:39,359 fires with a compass and going very low 983 00:41:44,569 --> 00:41:41,820 above them then roaring the Giants so 984 00:41:46,250 --> 00:41:44,579 people thought it was UFOs so it's a 985 00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:46,260 very long tradition 986 00:41:50,329 --> 00:41:48,720 yeah it's it's again it it depends if 987 00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:50,339 you if you understand what you're 988 00:41:55,490 --> 00:41:52,800 looking for and listening for some sort 989 00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:55,500 of a craft like that looks like a saucer 990 00:41:59,569 --> 00:41:57,839 like an Avro car type of thing now what 991 00:42:02,569 --> 00:41:59,579 we're talking about is you have to have 992 00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:02,579 a turbine engine with a bunch of 993 00:42:06,770 --> 00:42:04,740 different ducted exhaust over there sort 994 00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:06,780 of like if anyone's seen the video of 995 00:42:11,329 --> 00:42:09,599 Neil Neil Armstrong testing out the 996 00:42:13,609 --> 00:42:11,339 actually he wasn't testing he was 997 00:42:15,290 --> 00:42:13,619 practicing in the lunar lander outside 998 00:42:17,810 --> 00:42:15,300 of Houston and one of the Rockets 999 00:42:20,030 --> 00:42:17,820 misfires in it and it kind of starts to 1000 00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:20,040 to to Arc over and he pulls the ejection 1001 00:42:25,310 --> 00:42:23,520 seat and he flies out of it if you have 1002 00:42:26,810 --> 00:42:25,320 something like that the amount of fuel 1003 00:42:28,310 --> 00:42:26,820 that you would need I mean basically you 1004 00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:28,320 would have to have the entire saucer 1005 00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:30,720 would have to be a fuel tank in order to 1006 00:42:35,810 --> 00:42:32,880 be able to hover it would make an 1007 00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:35,820 enormous amount of of noise uh with the 1008 00:42:42,349 --> 00:42:39,300 technology that we have in order to uh 1009 00:42:44,510 --> 00:42:42,359 to be able to hover and be stable and go 1010 00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,520 forward so I mean it's very much would 1011 00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:46,560 fly like the way that a drone flies 1012 00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:48,480 except it would be a lot of speeder 1013 00:42:54,170 --> 00:42:51,359 Springs and flyweights to duct the the 1014 00:42:57,530 --> 00:42:54,180 thrust exhaust coming out of that engine 1015 00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:57,540 and it just would not do for for what a 1016 00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:00,960 UFO actually is with the with the 1017 00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:02,400 possible exception of the thing that 1018 00:43:08,690 --> 00:43:06,240 Lani Zamora uh saw that kind of I mean 1019 00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:08,700 if it's exactly as he says it kind of 1020 00:43:14,329 --> 00:43:12,000 lends itself to something like that but 1021 00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:14,339 um but that's not again if I'm testing 1022 00:43:18,650 --> 00:43:15,599 things like that I don't want to be 1023 00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:18,660 testing it over Suburban uh Dayton Ohio 1024 00:43:22,609 --> 00:43:20,880 but I would want to test it something 1025 00:43:24,050 --> 00:43:22,619 like that out there in the mid middle of 1026 00:43:27,950 --> 00:43:24,060 nowhere in the desert where I know 1027 00:43:30,410 --> 00:43:27,960 people cannot get a good view of of what 1028 00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,420 I'm testing and they picked a perfect 1029 00:43:34,849 --> 00:43:32,400 spot to do that and it by the way it's 1030 00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:34,859 not the only spot there's there's you 1031 00:43:38,569 --> 00:43:37,200 know dugway in Utah there's China Lake 1032 00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:38,579 in California and then there's places 1033 00:43:44,210 --> 00:43:40,800 that I don't even know about uh probably 1034 00:43:46,430 --> 00:43:44,220 several of them so I think that is where 1035 00:43:47,930 --> 00:43:46,440 you would test something try to fly 1036 00:43:51,170 --> 00:43:47,940 something if you were going to do that 1037 00:43:53,450 --> 00:43:51,180 and and that's why whereas perhaps these 1038 00:43:55,490 --> 00:43:53,460 bodies or pieces of this record these 1039 00:43:57,410 --> 00:43:55,500 wreckages have been brought to a place 1040 00:43:58,849 --> 00:43:57,420 where they have underground I mean 1041 00:44:02,210 --> 00:43:58,859 Kirtland Air Force Base also has 1042 00:44:04,010 --> 00:44:02,220 underground areas and so does uh so does 1043 00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:04,020 Wright-Patterson that's where you would 1044 00:44:07,970 --> 00:44:06,000 want to be able to do deep analysis on 1045 00:44:10,609 --> 00:44:07,980 any sort of a biology that you captured 1046 00:44:12,530 --> 00:44:10,619 or materials 1047 00:44:14,089 --> 00:44:12,540 um Wright-Patterson will be perfect but 1048 00:44:17,210 --> 00:44:14,099 certainly not for flying and flight 1049 00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:19,010 um anyway well and I think you both 1050 00:44:23,569 --> 00:44:21,119 highlight just the challenge here in in 1051 00:44:27,550 --> 00:44:23,579 looking at the history of this topic 1052 00:44:31,309 --> 00:44:27,560 because it is muddied quite a bit by 1053 00:44:32,930 --> 00:44:31,319 secrecy and subterfuge and and Baptist 1054 00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:32,940 you know you point this out I think very 1055 00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:36,000 clearly that uh the the tools and the 1056 00:44:40,990 --> 00:44:39,000 tricks that the secret keepers have are 1057 00:44:44,329 --> 00:44:41,000 uh 1058 00:44:47,569 --> 00:44:44,339 they're they're pretty powerful and 1059 00:44:49,010 --> 00:44:47,579 they're pretty uh um persuasive um in 1060 00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:49,020 the how and the way they can use 1061 00:44:53,329 --> 00:44:51,599 misdirection uh to get people looking in 1062 00:44:56,089 --> 00:44:53,339 a different way so it's not just 1063 00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:56,099 steering public opinion for example it's 1064 00:44:59,870 --> 00:44:57,839 during the opinion of your adversaries 1065 00:45:01,790 --> 00:44:59,880 right so if you can say if you can say 1066 00:45:04,130 --> 00:45:01,800 as you said earlier look over here not 1067 00:45:06,890 --> 00:45:04,140 over here then then things can be 1068 00:45:09,950 --> 00:45:06,900 accomplished in secrecy uh to a greater 1069 00:45:12,130 --> 00:45:09,960 degree and I was wondering you know kind 1070 00:45:15,050 --> 00:45:12,140 of in light of that challenge there 1071 00:45:17,210 --> 00:45:15,060 unearthing the truth from a lot of the 1072 00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:17,220 of this information 1073 00:45:22,670 --> 00:45:20,400 um where do you see the role of AI kind 1074 00:45:25,370 --> 00:45:22,680 of going forward in the future piecing 1075 00:45:28,670 --> 00:45:25,380 that apart looking through that Haystack 1076 00:45:31,309 --> 00:45:28,680 of information and gleaning out some 1077 00:45:33,230 --> 00:45:31,319 some facts and Truth amidst all the 1078 00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:33,240 different narratives there so the 1079 00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:35,520 problem with AI is that it's very very 1080 00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:39,119 badass truth it's a very very badass 1081 00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:41,520 finding the truth it's very good at 1082 00:45:46,130 --> 00:45:43,680 telling you what you want to hear and 1083 00:45:49,490 --> 00:45:46,140 guessing what you want to hear but you 1084 00:45:52,130 --> 00:45:49,500 very very bad at truth and to be honest 1085 00:45:53,630 --> 00:45:52,140 we don't use AI in any of your of our 1086 00:45:56,270 --> 00:45:53,640 software because we want to have open 1087 00:46:01,309 --> 00:45:56,280 box of 1088 00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:01,319 uh of uh sorry algorithms because we 1089 00:46:05,809 --> 00:46:03,599 want to know exactly how a piece of 1090 00:46:07,849 --> 00:46:05,819 information and their why a piece of 1091 00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:07,859 information landed there and to be 1092 00:46:17,809 --> 00:46:14,809 right I mean it's only as good as the 1093 00:46:19,790 --> 00:46:17,819 way that you incentivize the AI to look 1094 00:46:21,230 --> 00:46:19,800 for certain things right so but it I 1095 00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:21,240 mean you could program it to say look 1096 00:46:27,050 --> 00:46:24,960 for specific fact patterns look for 1097 00:46:29,210 --> 00:46:27,060 um another example that I've heard that 1098 00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:29,220 I think is a good example of using AI in 1099 00:46:33,710 --> 00:46:30,960 this instance I agree with your general 1100 00:46:37,130 --> 00:46:33,720 premise but a good example of this is 1101 00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,140 looking at old newspaper articles from 1102 00:46:41,690 --> 00:46:39,599 from a long time ago before the world 1103 00:46:43,910 --> 00:46:41,700 was rapidly connected in the way that it 1104 00:46:46,010 --> 00:46:43,920 is now via the Internet and if you can 1105 00:46:48,410 --> 00:46:46,020 look at different articles from 1106 00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:48,420 different applications from from 1107 00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:50,880 Publications around the world and if 1108 00:46:55,250 --> 00:46:53,280 language is similar in those 1109 00:46:57,770 --> 00:46:55,260 Publications that can tell you that 1110 00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:57,780 there was a source perhaps that fed that 1111 00:47:02,450 --> 00:47:00,720 information to those Publications that 1112 00:47:04,370 --> 00:47:02,460 the world at the time would not have 1113 00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:04,380 known it came from a single Source 1114 00:47:07,970 --> 00:47:06,240 because there wasn't that degree of 1115 00:47:10,250 --> 00:47:07,980 interconnectedness but the AI would be 1116 00:47:13,550 --> 00:47:10,260 able to aggregate that analyze that and 1117 00:47:15,710 --> 00:47:13,560 see that there may be a threat ahead so 1118 00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:15,720 to speak in this example that ties those 1119 00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:17,280 different pieces of information together 1120 00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:19,680 I I totally agree that it's a tremendous 1121 00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:21,359 challenge right because we we have to be 1122 00:47:25,730 --> 00:47:24,000 careful how we are programming it what 1123 00:47:28,010 --> 00:47:25,740 kind of algorithmic bias we're putting 1124 00:47:29,809 --> 00:47:28,020 into the AI being aware of those biases 1125 00:47:31,250 --> 00:47:29,819 that's super important and everything 1126 00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:31,260 that we're going to be doing with that 1127 00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:32,880 kind of technology is making sure that 1128 00:47:38,030 --> 00:47:35,280 those those uh you know software devices 1129 00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:38,040 are front and center so as we peruse and 1130 00:47:42,770 --> 00:47:40,319 ingest that information we know oh it's 1131 00:47:45,230 --> 00:47:42,780 it's it's it's going to be leaning and 1132 00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:45,240 waiting information of a certain kind 1133 00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:47,760 more than another kind so to kind of 1134 00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:49,920 take that with a little bit of a digital 1135 00:47:55,970 --> 00:47:52,880 grain of salt if you will 1136 00:47:57,470 --> 00:47:55,980 but what we just said the problem in 1137 00:48:00,410 --> 00:47:57,480 that field is that you have this 1138 00:48:02,809 --> 00:48:00,420 information so you have four strikes of 1139 00:48:06,050 --> 00:48:02,819 research that has been left behind to 1140 00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:06,060 waste your time so when your artificial 1141 00:48:10,970 --> 00:48:08,160 intelligence if you design it for it 1142 00:48:13,250 --> 00:48:10,980 we'll find them but it won't be able to 1143 00:48:16,370 --> 00:48:13,260 know if it's a good track or Force track 1144 00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:16,380 and you will be forced to do that work 1145 00:48:23,690 --> 00:48:21,530 yeah I think what Nathan might say 1146 00:48:26,450 --> 00:48:23,700 though if if your respond Nathan is it 1147 00:48:27,950 --> 00:48:26,460 it could shorten your your time frame if 1148 00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:27,960 it could eliminate some possibilities 1149 00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:30,480 and give you places to look 1150 00:48:34,430 --> 00:48:32,640 yeah absolutely I mean yeah I mean if it 1151 00:48:37,130 --> 00:48:34,440 can shorten that that task of collection 1152 00:48:38,750 --> 00:48:37,140 right and it can say hey we analyzed X 1153 00:48:41,089 --> 00:48:38,760 number of different pieces of 1154 00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:41,099 information documentation Publications 1155 00:48:46,970 --> 00:48:44,880 Etc we found this frequency of uh of 1156 00:48:48,349 --> 00:48:46,980 information that I was looking for you 1157 00:48:50,089 --> 00:48:48,359 know that may help me in understanding 1158 00:48:52,250 --> 00:48:50,099 the uh the degree to which that 1159 00:48:54,829 --> 00:48:52,260 particular claim for example at least 1160 00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:54,839 made it into publication or made it into 1161 00:48:58,910 --> 00:48:56,880 documentation I still have to I think 1162 00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:58,920 this is the valid point here I still 1163 00:49:01,430 --> 00:49:00,720 have to judge whether or not that is in 1164 00:49:03,890 --> 00:49:01,440 fact 1165 00:49:05,390 --> 00:49:03,900 true just because it appears everywhere 1166 00:49:06,890 --> 00:49:05,400 it doesn't make it true I think that's 1167 00:49:10,190 --> 00:49:06,900 one of the biggest things that we've all 1168 00:49:11,930 --> 00:49:10,200 learned in the last decades about our 1169 00:49:13,970 --> 00:49:11,940 media just because it shows up in all of 1170 00:49:15,950 --> 00:49:13,980 our media it doesn't make it actually a 1171 00:49:18,530 --> 00:49:15,960 true thing right we have to use a 1172 00:49:21,230 --> 00:49:18,540 certain degree of discernment there what 1173 00:49:22,849 --> 00:49:21,240 yeah right it's again just highlights I 1174 00:49:26,030 --> 00:49:22,859 think the the tremendous challenge that 1175 00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:26,040 we have here about getting to the truth 1176 00:49:31,130 --> 00:49:29,040 right who who what where does the does 1177 00:49:35,150 --> 00:49:31,140 the information come from in order for 1178 00:49:39,230 --> 00:49:35,160 the public to say this is true 1179 00:49:41,569 --> 00:49:39,240 so I think I can't talk much about it 1180 00:49:44,210 --> 00:49:41,579 because it's just on the on the drawing 1181 00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:44,220 board but we are designing a tool that 1182 00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:47,520 is very specific to gather a quote from 1183 00:49:50,990 --> 00:49:49,920 people locate the quotes and collaborate 1184 00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:51,000 the quotes 1185 00:49:56,329 --> 00:49:53,760 so for example that would be a much more 1186 00:49:58,250 --> 00:49:56,339 useful tool for a journalists than an 1187 00:50:01,069 --> 00:49:58,260 artificial intelligence able to look for 1188 00:50:02,930 --> 00:50:01,079 just patterns of words because then when 1189 00:50:06,170 --> 00:50:02,940 you have two or three times the same 1190 00:50:08,270 --> 00:50:06,180 quote that is corroborated you are 1191 00:50:10,730 --> 00:50:08,280 pretty sure it's true and you just need 1192 00:50:12,890 --> 00:50:10,740 to recheck one time and your show is 1193 00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:12,900 true and you don't need to rely on the 1194 00:50:17,390 --> 00:50:15,119 context it's just plain words of in 1195 00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:17,400 quotes so that's one of the tools we are 1196 00:50:22,490 --> 00:50:20,460 working on not and and I'm not anti-ai 1197 00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:22,500 just that we are very cautious about it 1198 00:50:27,410 --> 00:50:24,960 because we are in a field where you have 1199 00:50:33,230 --> 00:50:27,420 literal information that are made as 1200 00:50:36,650 --> 00:50:34,849 okay I think that's great I'm glad that 1201 00:50:38,809 --> 00:50:36,660 you are because you should be right it's 1202 00:50:41,150 --> 00:50:38,819 a it's a it's a powerful enough it can 1203 00:50:42,829 --> 00:50:41,160 potentially be a dangerous tool so I 1204 00:50:43,790 --> 00:50:42,839 think that's very smart to be cautious 1205 00:50:47,690 --> 00:50:43,800 there 1206 00:50:52,930 --> 00:50:47,700 about Baptiste in these two visits with 1207 00:50:55,790 --> 00:50:52,940 us he's smart uh oh thank you so much 1208 00:50:58,490 --> 00:50:55,800 I have to invite you to dinner come to 1209 00:51:00,290 --> 00:50:58,500 France I would like to it's one of my 1210 00:51:02,329 --> 00:51:00,300 favorite countries 1211 00:51:03,770 --> 00:51:02,339 um you know the UK and France I just get 1212 00:51:05,150 --> 00:51:03,780 such a great feeling every time I'm 1213 00:51:08,210 --> 00:51:05,160 there 1214 00:51:10,250 --> 00:51:08,220 um so I we have a couple questions but I 1215 00:51:11,809 --> 00:51:10,260 want to get Deb in there first and then 1216 00:51:14,089 --> 00:51:11,819 we'll go to Michael's questions from the 1217 00:51:16,609 --> 00:51:14,099 chat and Julie's question so please go 1218 00:51:19,010 --> 00:51:16,619 ahead Miss Deb yeah so I wanted to speak 1219 00:51:21,049 --> 00:51:19,020 to this concept of truth and how people 1220 00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:21,059 respond to information really quick 1221 00:51:26,510 --> 00:51:23,760 because as we know not that long ago 1222 00:51:29,150 --> 00:51:26,520 maybe about a year ago Lockheed just put 1223 00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:29,160 this craft outside to be photographed 1224 00:51:34,430 --> 00:51:31,440 that looks like a saucer 1225 00:51:37,010 --> 00:51:34,440 um in about a couple years ago a craft 1226 00:51:39,410 --> 00:51:37,020 was actually going down the Beltway in I 1227 00:51:42,170 --> 00:51:39,420 believe Maryland or Virginia that looked 1228 00:51:44,569 --> 00:51:42,180 like a saucer and people were just like 1229 00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:44,579 oh okay well it's obviously not Connor 1230 00:51:49,549 --> 00:51:47,280 V1 right so what if we're just kind of 1231 00:51:52,190 --> 00:51:49,559 guinea pigs you know like sometimes I 1232 00:51:54,349 --> 00:51:52,200 wonder about that the CIA openly 1233 00:51:56,990 --> 00:51:54,359 admitted they told people there were 1234 00:51:58,849 --> 00:51:57,000 UFOs at one point in time to cover up 1235 00:52:00,589 --> 00:51:58,859 one of their projects and there's an 1236 00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:00,599 article about that if anyone wants to 1237 00:52:06,109 --> 00:52:03,119 look at it so it does make me wonder 1238 00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:06,119 like how are we going to actually get 1239 00:52:10,250 --> 00:52:08,400 the truth and believe the truth and 1240 00:52:12,589 --> 00:52:10,260 digest that 1241 00:52:15,650 --> 00:52:12,599 um because so many tricks have been done 1242 00:52:19,370 --> 00:52:15,660 so many like well haha well here's our 1243 00:52:21,230 --> 00:52:19,380 saucer kind of tricks have been done too 1244 00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:21,240 you've asked them a big question go 1245 00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:23,119 ahead about these 1246 00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:27,119 I I think it was a a tool between cobal 1247 00:52:33,470 --> 00:52:30,960 and nap uh where they were debating uh 1248 00:52:36,049 --> 00:52:33,480 they imagined that they were talking to 1249 00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:36,059 the military and trying to convince them 1250 00:52:41,450 --> 00:52:38,880 of opening the doors and talking about 1251 00:52:44,510 --> 00:52:41,460 UFOs openly and the National Security 1252 00:52:46,430 --> 00:52:44,520 guy answered but what are you going to 1253 00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:46,440 do with a piece of information for you 1254 00:52:49,790 --> 00:52:48,960 just for your curiosity for us it's a 1255 00:52:52,849 --> 00:52:49,800 threat 1256 00:52:54,950 --> 00:52:52,859 so I would use the same argument why are 1257 00:52:58,250 --> 00:52:54,960 you looking toward intelligence that are 1258 00:53:01,130 --> 00:52:58,260 literally paid to lie of the military 1259 00:53:04,130 --> 00:53:01,140 that are literally paid to not talk 1260 00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:04,140 higher scientists create a hedge fund 1261 00:53:08,990 --> 00:53:06,480 higher scientists firm vendor tools they 1262 00:53:12,589 --> 00:53:09,000 will find the answer 1263 00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:12,599 in theory the problem is capturing is to 1264 00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:14,640 be able to capture it you know and and 1265 00:53:21,470 --> 00:53:18,240 because the dod already and obviously 1266 00:53:23,809 --> 00:53:21,480 not only the drd dod the nro you know 1267 00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:23,819 NASA has sensors there's different 1268 00:53:28,490 --> 00:53:26,160 um satellite uh agencies that have 1269 00:53:30,349 --> 00:53:28,500 satellites that can see things that uh 1270 00:53:32,990 --> 00:53:30,359 and pick things up and there's rate you 1271 00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:33,000 know NASA has a massive radar in space 1272 00:53:35,630 --> 00:53:34,319 so 1273 00:53:37,549 --> 00:53:35,640 um that's the problem is that they've 1274 00:53:39,770 --> 00:53:37,559 already funded and have all the sensors 1275 00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:39,780 and there's so much money involved I 1276 00:53:43,609 --> 00:53:41,520 think that's the challenge that Avi lobe 1277 00:53:46,250 --> 00:53:43,619 and his his career coming up with his 1278 00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:46,260 Fielding sensors uh and proliferating 1279 00:53:50,510 --> 00:53:48,480 them it's just a lot a lot of money I'm 1280 00:53:53,390 --> 00:53:50,520 not saying it's impossible but I think 1281 00:53:55,609 --> 00:53:53,400 that's that's a challenge I I think that 1282 00:53:58,630 --> 00:53:55,619 he'll follow the community spend the 1283 00:54:01,730 --> 00:53:58,640 energy they did talking about 1284 00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:01,740 encouraging the gay level project we 1285 00:54:05,690 --> 00:54:03,599 will advance much faster 1286 00:54:07,849 --> 00:54:05,700 now you're absolutely right you're 1287 00:54:09,170 --> 00:54:07,859 absolutely right uh let me get a couple 1288 00:54:10,250 --> 00:54:09,180 questions in here that we have from 1289 00:54:12,109 --> 00:54:10,260 Michael 1290 00:54:13,549 --> 00:54:12,119 um he asked first if you've ever and we 1291 00:54:15,470 --> 00:54:13,559 kind of asked you at this beginning and 1292 00:54:17,809 --> 00:54:15,480 it's probably before Michael logged on 1293 00:54:21,230 --> 00:54:17,819 but he says Batiste have you had a 1294 00:54:25,849 --> 00:54:21,240 life-changing experience every day is a 1295 00:54:30,410 --> 00:54:28,309 he's damn right man 1296 00:54:32,569 --> 00:54:30,420 um but yeah he hasn't seen a UFO Michael 1297 00:54:34,190 --> 00:54:32,579 if that's what you're asking we we asked 1298 00:54:36,410 --> 00:54:34,200 him that in the beginning it wasn't an 1299 00:54:38,030 --> 00:54:36,420 event it was a a question from one of 1300 00:54:41,569 --> 00:54:38,040 his students that started this all 1301 00:54:43,309 --> 00:54:41,579 because like any great teacher he says I 1302 00:54:44,990 --> 00:54:43,319 don't have all the answers but I'll find 1303 00:54:46,730 --> 00:54:45,000 you the answer and that's kind of like 1304 00:54:48,589 --> 00:54:46,740 how I'm at work if somebody asked me 1305 00:54:50,329 --> 00:54:48,599 something like you know something I need 1306 00:54:52,730 --> 00:54:50,339 to know or should know I'll be like I I 1307 00:54:56,270 --> 00:54:52,740 don't know I will find find you the 1308 00:55:04,190 --> 00:54:56,280 answer it would be unfair of me to let 1309 00:55:17,690 --> 00:55:06,829 you did 1310 00:55:21,710 --> 00:55:17,700 this question 1311 00:55:24,410 --> 00:55:21,720 uh yes I said that it wouldn't be fair 1312 00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:24,420 for me to let you say that I didn't see 1313 00:55:29,870 --> 00:55:27,599 a UFO okay he used double negatives so 1314 00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:29,880 he's saying yes yes he saw one he did 1315 00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:31,920 okay well you don't have to share it if 1316 00:55:36,589 --> 00:55:34,079 you don't want to share it it's okay 1317 00:55:38,710 --> 00:55:36,599 um this uh this question right there 1318 00:55:41,150 --> 00:55:38,720 what do you think about Skinwalker Ranch 1319 00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:41,160 uh are you willing to go there and be a 1320 00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:42,960 ranch hand for a couple weeks 1321 00:55:47,530 --> 00:55:45,839 how I would pay to be there I'm a very 1322 00:55:49,970 --> 00:55:47,540 good guinea pig 1323 00:55:53,569 --> 00:55:49,980 now I would love to to go there to be 1324 00:55:56,930 --> 00:55:53,579 there and I have a full brain scan made 1325 00:55:58,910 --> 00:55:56,940 by one of the best hospital in France to 1326 00:56:00,890 --> 00:55:58,920 to check out and compare if I have brain 1327 00:56:04,370 --> 00:56:00,900 damage afterwards so there's no problem 1328 00:56:07,970 --> 00:56:04,380 for me I will sign any clothes you want 1329 00:56:10,490 --> 00:56:07,980 um I I would love to and from every and 1330 00:56:14,030 --> 00:56:10,500 if I say that is because every context 1331 00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:14,040 that I trust told me that what they were 1332 00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:16,079 doing was true 1333 00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:18,960 okay and so you're what you're I mean 1334 00:56:23,890 --> 00:56:21,599 what do you think about that phenomenon 1335 00:56:27,049 --> 00:56:23,900 have you developed any sort of 1336 00:56:29,569 --> 00:56:27,059 hypotheses about the origins or origin 1337 00:56:31,250 --> 00:56:29,579 if it's a single one what are you what 1338 00:56:33,650 --> 00:56:31,260 is your leading theory on what you 1339 00:56:36,290 --> 00:56:33,660 think's well it's not even a theory it's 1340 00:56:39,170 --> 00:56:36,300 an idea I like the idea of past 1341 00:56:43,329 --> 00:56:39,180 Chernobyl like something crushed but it 1342 00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:43,339 was a very very nasty Crush like 1343 00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:46,319 very and we have some reports of it 1344 00:56:50,510 --> 00:56:48,000 usually when you have a something that 1345 00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:50,520 crashed either just explode in a 1346 00:56:56,030 --> 00:56:53,040 thousand pieces or it stays in one block 1347 00:56:59,809 --> 00:56:56,040 but you have a few reports where you 1348 00:57:02,210 --> 00:56:59,819 have a Shiva breaks in half and you have 1349 00:57:04,130 --> 00:57:02,220 the two pieces that are separated and I 1350 00:57:05,870 --> 00:57:04,140 think that that's type of disaster that 1351 00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:05,880 could have happened and that's explained 1352 00:57:11,450 --> 00:57:08,880 a lot of the power spikes leaks of 1353 00:57:13,790 --> 00:57:11,460 radiation that kind of stuff 1354 00:57:16,430 --> 00:57:13,800 I love that theory I mean that that 1355 00:57:18,109 --> 00:57:16,440 makes a lot of sense plus obviously the 1356 00:57:21,049 --> 00:57:18,119 physical 1357 00:57:23,690 --> 00:57:21,059 um uh what would I call it the barrier 1358 00:57:26,030 --> 00:57:23,700 that they encountered in the Mesa where 1359 00:57:28,370 --> 00:57:26,040 they they suspected it was Dome shaped 1360 00:57:31,250 --> 00:57:28,380 by the reaction of the drill bit after 1361 00:57:33,950 --> 00:57:31,260 they drilled uh horizontally into the 1362 00:57:35,630 --> 00:57:33,960 Mesa so that's interesting and it's a 1363 00:57:38,329 --> 00:57:35,640 great Theory 1364 00:57:40,849 --> 00:57:38,339 um Julie asks our chat moderator Jules 1365 00:57:44,329 --> 00:57:40,859 says uh this basically can go for 1366 00:57:46,370 --> 00:57:44,339 Baptist or any of the the folks here uh 1367 00:57:48,349 --> 00:57:46,380 any news about the big uh the big 1368 00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:48,359 Wright-Patt meetings with the big wigs 1369 00:57:56,030 --> 00:57:53,750 do you know anything about t-star I 1370 00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:56,040 haven't so I was looking for a reference 1371 00:58:01,549 --> 00:57:59,280 for you uh for the skin worker Andre is 1372 00:58:03,950 --> 00:58:01,559 a very very good book that has been 1373 00:58:06,650 --> 00:58:03,960 written and it predates the skinwork 1374 00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:06,660 around it's called uh stalker by the 1375 00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:09,920 brothers strugatsky and it's a version 1376 00:58:16,430 --> 00:58:14,160 uh story and it really describes the 1377 00:58:17,930 --> 00:58:16,440 skin worker range so I would encourage 1378 00:58:19,849 --> 00:58:17,940 everybody that is interested in the 1379 00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:19,859 schema programs to read that book and 1380 00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:21,119 then sorry I didn't have a question 1381 00:58:24,049 --> 00:58:22,559 because I was looking for the reference 1382 00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:24,059 no it's okay 1383 00:58:29,809 --> 00:58:26,880 um Julie's asking if you have or either 1384 00:58:33,410 --> 00:58:29,819 Nathan or Deb has any info on the Intel 1385 00:58:35,690 --> 00:58:33,420 or the sort of a higher official meeting 1386 00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:35,700 that was held at wrightpat recently if 1387 00:58:41,930 --> 00:58:38,000 you'd heard anything about that yeah 1388 00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:41,940 as well as far as I know it was related 1389 00:58:46,609 --> 00:58:44,640 to the big leagues of information for 1390 00:58:50,990 --> 00:58:46,619 Military Intelligence on the Minecraft 1391 00:58:53,809 --> 00:58:51,000 server not related to UFOs but what was 1392 00:58:58,069 --> 00:58:53,819 really interesting that the the nature 1393 00:59:02,210 --> 00:58:58,079 of the state then later said that it was 1394 00:59:03,950 --> 00:59:02,220 a very sobering uh briefing here which 1395 00:59:05,049 --> 00:59:03,960 is pretty scary when you think that it 1396 00:59:10,370 --> 00:59:05,059 is 1397 00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:13,849 did you hear anything uh Nathan Deb I I 1398 00:59:21,170 --> 00:59:17,520 heard that it was also about that Reddit 1399 00:59:24,410 --> 00:59:21,180 leak and that's what the focus was the 1400 00:59:28,370 --> 00:59:24,420 issue of security and confidentiality 1401 00:59:30,890 --> 00:59:28,380 or yeah the leak issue was that I heard 1402 00:59:32,329 --> 00:59:30,900 yeah I think it was the Discord leaks 1403 00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:32,339 yeah so we said three different things 1404 00:59:38,210 --> 00:59:34,559 but I think it was Discord 1405 00:59:40,250 --> 00:59:38,220 um were that young intelligence officer 1406 00:59:42,530 --> 00:59:40,260 was sure like basically showboating on 1407 00:59:44,690 --> 00:59:42,540 Discord and sharing a bunch of you know 1408 00:59:47,089 --> 00:59:44,700 sensitive Secrets 1409 00:59:48,530 --> 00:59:47,099 um but even the situation we can be 1410 00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:48,540 almost sure that they talk about the 1411 00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:50,640 Chinese balloons at least you would 1412 00:59:54,650 --> 00:59:53,040 think right uh which I think is still an 1413 00:59:57,170 --> 00:59:54,660 interesting topic that hasn't really 1414 00:59:59,450 --> 00:59:57,180 been resolved in at least in the public 1415 01:00:01,490 --> 00:59:59,460 uh and as far as I understand not been 1416 01:00:03,049 --> 01:00:01,500 resolved to the satisfaction of the 1417 01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:03,059 Congress either at least the at least 1418 01:00:06,530 --> 01:00:04,799 based on the public statements that 1419 01:00:08,690 --> 01:00:06,540 they've made they still don't really 1420 01:00:11,089 --> 01:00:08,700 know much more than the public knows 1421 01:00:13,730 --> 01:00:11,099 about whatever these objects were that 1422 01:00:15,710 --> 01:00:13,740 were shot down so 1423 01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:15,720 um you know we can certainly say we 1424 01:00:18,349 --> 01:00:17,040 think they were prosaic we don't have 1425 01:00:20,270 --> 01:00:18,359 any reason to believe that they weren't 1426 01:00:24,530 --> 01:00:20,280 but nevertheless it's a little bit odd 1427 01:00:27,410 --> 01:00:24,540 that uh we can get a a cockpit video of 1428 01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:27,420 uh of a of a was it a Reaper drone or 1429 01:00:31,730 --> 01:00:29,520 something that was uh that was gassed 1430 01:00:33,049 --> 01:00:31,740 over in the you know in the Baltic or 1431 01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:33,059 something like that and they released 1432 01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:35,520 that like ASAP but they won't release 1433 01:00:40,150 --> 01:00:37,920 you know shooting a Sidewinder at a 1434 01:00:43,250 --> 01:00:40,160 balloon 1435 01:00:44,750 --> 01:00:43,260 that's a very strange in the February 1436 01:00:45,609 --> 01:00:44,760 shutdowns 1437 01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:45,619 um 1438 01:00:52,190 --> 01:00:49,200 the same information uh he said so 1439 01:00:54,410 --> 01:00:52,200 publicly so there is something very well 1440 01:00:57,410 --> 01:00:54,420 that is happening around that February 1441 01:00:59,150 --> 01:00:57,420 cases I 1442 01:01:01,609 --> 01:00:59,160 thought is that it was really 1443 01:01:03,710 --> 01:01:01,619 interesting how quickly UAP was used to 1444 01:01:06,289 --> 01:01:03,720 discuss that though 1445 01:01:09,490 --> 01:01:06,299 um so it wasn't just like we put that 1446 01:01:11,329 --> 01:01:09,500 title on it they did 1447 01:01:14,270 --> 01:01:11,339 yeah 1448 01:01:16,730 --> 01:01:14,280 um I agree with Nathan I I we don't have 1449 01:01:18,890 --> 01:01:16,740 any any evidence to say that it was 1450 01:01:20,990 --> 01:01:18,900 something other than something Prozac or 1451 01:01:23,870 --> 01:01:21,000 something that was launched by a global 1452 01:01:26,210 --> 01:01:23,880 power competition Nation like obviously 1453 01:01:28,490 --> 01:01:26,220 Russia or China 1454 01:01:31,730 --> 01:01:28,500 um but I can totally understand why they 1455 01:01:33,530 --> 01:01:31,740 would not they would not uh report the 1456 01:01:35,450 --> 01:01:33,540 results of what they found that is 1457 01:01:38,210 --> 01:01:35,460 complete in my mind that's completely 1458 01:01:40,250 --> 01:01:38,220 consistent with what they would do which 1459 01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:40,260 is to say we haven't found it yet we're 1460 01:01:44,210 --> 01:01:41,760 looking for it we don't know what it was 1461 01:01:46,910 --> 01:01:44,220 because once you define it 1462 01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:46,920 uh depending upon what it was then that 1463 01:01:52,130 --> 01:01:48,720 it you know we can get you can get into 1464 01:01:55,670 --> 01:01:52,140 this this uh uh discussion about UAP 1465 01:01:57,890 --> 01:01:55,680 writ large but once you define okay yes 1466 01:02:00,349 --> 01:01:57,900 we found it and this is what it was well 1467 01:02:02,329 --> 01:02:00,359 then whoever launched it if it was one 1468 01:02:04,970 --> 01:02:02,339 of these nations and we think it was we 1469 01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:04,980 don't know for sure because you know 1470 01:02:10,490 --> 01:02:07,680 Common Sense would say that if this were 1471 01:02:12,530 --> 01:02:10,500 another in non-human intelligence craft 1472 01:02:15,049 --> 01:02:12,540 we're probably not going to be able to 1473 01:02:17,030 --> 01:02:15,059 shoot it down with an F-22 the evidence 1474 01:02:19,970 --> 01:02:17,040 you know given by you know everybody 1475 01:02:21,910 --> 01:02:19,980 from Folks at Graham Randall has studied 1476 01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:21,920 up you know up until 1477 01:02:28,430 --> 01:02:26,160 1976 with the Iranian pilot or Iranian 1478 01:02:29,870 --> 01:02:28,440 pilot let me say that correctly 1479 01:02:32,030 --> 01:02:29,880 um so 1480 01:02:33,710 --> 01:02:32,040 um we probably couldn't take down 1481 01:02:36,289 --> 01:02:33,720 something that was of a non-human 1482 01:02:38,870 --> 01:02:36,299 intelligence I would think without maybe 1483 01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:38,880 a very specific type of weapon 1484 01:02:44,569 --> 01:02:42,720 so given that it probably was human made 1485 01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:44,579 and they probably don't want to 1486 01:02:48,829 --> 01:02:46,400 characterize it for the public to let 1487 01:02:50,450 --> 01:02:48,839 those other intelligence Services know 1488 01:02:52,130 --> 01:02:50,460 how they've characterized it and how 1489 01:02:54,530 --> 01:02:52,140 they've defined it 1490 01:02:57,829 --> 01:02:54,540 just Falls sake of the argumentation I 1491 01:03:01,789 --> 01:02:57,839 would oppose that they do Crush 1492 01:03:04,130 --> 01:03:01,799 sure sure no I but if uh the the the the 1493 01:03:07,370 --> 01:03:04,140 times when people say they've shot at 1494 01:03:09,650 --> 01:03:07,380 them uh hasn't been successful I've 1495 01:03:14,030 --> 01:03:09,660 heard of another 1496 01:03:16,549 --> 01:03:14,040 um through somebody that would know uh 1497 01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:16,559 about uh different aircraft that fired 1498 01:03:22,250 --> 01:03:20,400 on one that's not as distant as 1976 and 1499 01:03:25,789 --> 01:03:22,260 it it was able to move out of the way 1500 01:03:28,130 --> 01:03:25,799 predictively before rounds uh collided 1501 01:03:30,890 --> 01:03:28,140 with it so 1502 01:03:34,210 --> 01:03:30,900 um I'm just I'm just taking a stab here 1503 01:03:40,970 --> 01:03:38,030 there's no no missile ever touched one 1504 01:03:43,490 --> 01:03:40,980 or managed to shut down one they are 1505 01:03:46,430 --> 01:03:43,500 they left that missiles but it doesn't 1506 01:03:48,770 --> 01:03:46,440 mean that one time they won't find one 1507 01:03:51,049 --> 01:03:48,780 that is already very damaged and isn't 1508 01:03:54,289 --> 01:03:51,059 able to defend itself yes that's true I 1509 01:03:55,789 --> 01:03:54,299 mean it happened in Independence Day so 1510 01:03:58,490 --> 01:03:55,799 um 1511 01:04:00,890 --> 01:03:58,500 so it is possible but their response is 1512 01:04:02,630 --> 01:04:00,900 I believe is consistent with what I 1513 01:04:05,150 --> 01:04:02,640 would have expected them to do and say 1514 01:04:06,829 --> 01:04:05,160 that that part of it is is what I can 1515 01:04:08,809 --> 01:04:06,839 you know how I would expect them to 1516 01:04:10,910 --> 01:04:08,819 characterize which is hey you know we 1517 01:04:12,829 --> 01:04:10,920 weren't able to find it and when we do 1518 01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:12,839 we'll let you know and that'll be in 1519 01:04:21,230 --> 01:04:18,240 probably 2097. so uh anyway uh let's put 1520 01:04:25,730 --> 01:04:21,240 it up on the screen uh UAP check yep all 1521 01:04:28,190 --> 01:04:25,740 right second here here we go yeah oh we 1522 01:04:32,089 --> 01:04:28,200 have a we have the full website if you 1523 01:04:34,730 --> 01:04:32,099 want oh please yeah all right private 1524 01:04:36,829 --> 01:04:34,740 chat so it's just the backbone it's uh 1525 01:04:38,630 --> 01:04:36,839 it's a build we are working on but it 1526 01:04:41,089 --> 01:04:38,640 will give you an idea 1527 01:04:45,589 --> 01:04:41,099 okay thank you yeah if you could I got 1528 01:04:53,510 --> 01:04:49,609 there it is it is HTTP colon uh is that 1529 01:04:55,789 --> 01:04:53,520 forward slot forward slash uapcheck.com 1530 01:04:58,190 --> 01:04:55,799 um that's awesome man uh you can bring 1531 01:05:00,049 --> 01:04:58,200 in on the screen I can show you around 1532 01:05:02,390 --> 01:05:00,059 if you want oh sure yeah I think you can 1533 01:05:04,430 --> 01:05:02,400 uh share a screen if you want go for it 1534 01:05:07,789 --> 01:05:04,440 brother 1535 01:05:11,930 --> 01:05:07,799 so Baptiste is about to show us uh UAP 1536 01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:11,940 check this new tool UAP reporting how 1537 01:05:19,450 --> 01:05:13,440 would you characterize if you were to 1538 01:05:25,069 --> 01:05:22,309 platform but if you everything you need 1539 01:05:27,230 --> 01:05:25,079 about your APS so uh there is three 1540 01:05:30,109 --> 01:05:27,240 different parts inside the project the 1541 01:05:32,510 --> 01:05:30,119 first part is the news part we will be 1542 01:05:35,030 --> 01:05:32,520 the first launch in two weeks uh what 1543 01:05:36,829 --> 01:05:35,040 you see there is the backbone of it so 1544 01:05:39,109 --> 01:05:36,839 on the left part you have a news 1545 01:05:41,450 --> 01:05:39,119 aggregator so it just links to a 1546 01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:41,460 reliable pieces of content related to 1547 01:05:46,609 --> 01:05:44,160 uaps it's automatically updated every 1548 01:05:48,109 --> 01:05:46,619 hour on the right part we will have our 1549 01:05:50,750 --> 01:05:48,119 own editorial board that will be 1550 01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:50,760 publishing more in-depth analysis about 1551 01:05:55,730 --> 01:05:54,000 the subject and the fact checking over a 1552 01:05:57,170 --> 01:05:55,740 piece of information that are not that 1553 01:05:59,809 --> 01:05:57,180 reliable 1554 01:06:03,530 --> 01:05:59,819 then we will have at the end of Summer 1555 01:06:06,950 --> 01:06:03,540 of the UAP check software that will be 1556 01:06:11,630 --> 01:06:06,960 the reporting software for the witness 1557 01:06:14,030 --> 01:06:11,640 and then at so it would be in January we 1558 01:06:16,069 --> 01:06:14,040 will have the control path so we want to 1559 01:06:19,250 --> 01:06:16,079 organize art exhibits concerts 1560 01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:19,260 conferences about uaps and to expand the 1561 01:06:24,069 --> 01:06:21,359 subject towards the population we really 1562 01:06:30,549 --> 01:06:24,079 want to breathe the population on mass 1563 01:06:34,430 --> 01:06:33,410 it's very robust very comprehensive in 1564 01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:34,440 everything you're trying to do right 1565 01:06:39,349 --> 01:06:37,680 Nathan it looks great and uh you you the 1566 01:06:41,089 --> 01:06:39,359 screen that you showed reminded me 1567 01:06:43,549 --> 01:06:41,099 you've been writing for the debrief 1568 01:06:46,370 --> 01:06:43,559 you've been uh putting articles out from 1569 01:06:48,470 --> 01:06:46,380 them and to what degree if can you talk 1570 01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:48,480 to you know the collaborative effort 1571 01:06:52,670 --> 01:06:50,880 there with the debrief and the UAP check 1572 01:06:55,849 --> 01:06:52,680 is is there one 1573 01:06:58,970 --> 01:06:55,859 uh we are very good friends uh it's just 1574 01:07:01,190 --> 01:06:58,980 that the debrief is uh General platform 1575 01:07:04,010 --> 01:07:01,200 it talks about everything about news 1576 01:07:07,309 --> 01:07:04,020 Technologies Etc will be very focused 1577 01:07:09,410 --> 01:07:07,319 about uaps and uh as a teacher I'm also 1578 01:07:11,450 --> 01:07:09,420 a defense teacher so it's a bit of a 1579 01:07:13,309 --> 01:07:11,460 word thing but in France we have what we 1580 01:07:17,150 --> 01:07:13,319 call defense class so it's class that 1581 01:07:19,849 --> 01:07:17,160 are made with the army so I'm I I have 1582 01:07:22,970 --> 01:07:19,859 double job as teacher and defense and in 1583 01:07:26,690 --> 01:07:22,980 art and as I 1584 01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:26,700 I can't talk English when I'm not too 1585 01:07:32,930 --> 01:07:30,240 tired sorry I started to write articles 1586 01:07:35,529 --> 01:07:32,940 about the French defense because we have 1587 01:07:40,130 --> 01:07:35,539 the same problem of 1588 01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:40,140 barrier of language with our army so I 1589 01:07:44,329 --> 01:07:41,280 wanted to 1590 01:07:46,370 --> 01:07:44,339 give an opinion of what we could do in 1591 01:07:48,710 --> 01:07:46,380 France toward the military and 1592 01:07:51,170 --> 01:07:48,720 especially specifically in the areas of 1593 01:07:54,170 --> 01:07:51,180 UAP so here you have an article about 1594 01:07:56,750 --> 01:07:54,180 higher haste airspace so that basically 1595 01:07:58,849 --> 01:07:56,760 the limit between uh the the maximum 1596 01:08:02,510 --> 01:07:58,859 altitude of a plane and the limit of 1597 01:08:07,190 --> 01:08:02,520 space and that's the area where we in 1598 01:08:08,809 --> 01:08:07,200 the limits 2004 events you add a range 1599 01:08:10,910 --> 01:08:08,819 of UFOs that were with what was 1600 01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:10,920 witnessed by Kevin Day 1601 01:08:15,289 --> 01:08:13,680 yeah like 80 000 feet I mean there I 1602 01:08:17,570 --> 01:08:15,299 don't I don't think there's an aircraft 1603 01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:17,580 that could that could get up that high 1604 01:08:22,010 --> 01:08:20,400 with a traditional turbine fan type 1605 01:08:24,169 --> 01:08:22,020 engine I don't even think I don't know 1606 01:08:25,910 --> 01:08:24,179 if you guys have looked into that I 1607 01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:25,920 don't know what the the complete total 1608 01:08:30,650 --> 01:08:29,279 ceiling is but man uh 80 000 feet I mean 1609 01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:30,660 you wouldn't be able to do do a whole 1610 01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:33,120 lot so if you could get up there you're 1611 01:08:36,820 --> 01:08:35,279 hanging on the hanging on the engines 1612 01:08:38,749 --> 01:08:36,830 with the high end over attack 1613 01:08:40,249 --> 01:08:38,759 [Music] 1614 01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:40,259 um not a lot of air to compress anyway 1615 01:08:45,650 --> 01:08:42,960 oh there is a another thing I can show 1616 01:08:48,490 --> 01:08:45,660 you and we just finished uh the 1617 01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:48,500 Prototype of one of our exhibits 1618 01:08:54,829 --> 01:08:53,040 so I asked my students to create an Art 1619 01:08:58,430 --> 01:08:54,839 Exhibit 1620 01:09:01,729 --> 01:08:58,440 uh and we worked with the UNESCO to 1621 01:09:05,769 --> 01:09:01,739 create artworks so on the left are the 1622 01:09:08,209 --> 01:09:05,779 works of my students the theme was 1623 01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:08,219 extraterrestrial Landscapes and then 1624 01:09:13,249 --> 01:09:10,799 with the UNESCO I offered but for each 1625 01:09:14,590 --> 01:09:13,259 artwork so for one of my students we 1626 01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:14,600 would be 1627 01:09:20,030 --> 01:09:18,000 exhibiting one of the art pieces in 1628 01:09:22,610 --> 01:09:20,040 their collection so that we just ended 1629 01:09:24,769 --> 01:09:22,620 that attack at exhibits that one of the 1630 01:09:28,970 --> 01:09:24,779 prototypes were working on regarding 1631 01:09:30,229 --> 01:09:28,980 cultural Outreach about that subject 1632 01:09:33,169 --> 01:09:30,239 that's awesome 1633 01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:33,179 it's also so cool that you are both dual 1634 01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:35,040 hating where you're teaching art and 1635 01:09:40,370 --> 01:09:37,679 you're teaching uh defense and it's just 1636 01:09:42,650 --> 01:09:40,380 so cool when um when people are able to 1637 01:09:44,329 --> 01:09:42,660 straddle these areas instead of you know 1638 01:09:45,769 --> 01:09:44,339 you can do one but not the other because 1639 01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:45,779 it's just important to being a 1640 01:09:50,390 --> 01:09:47,279 well-rounded person is a sort of 1641 01:09:52,130 --> 01:09:50,400 appreciation of all these things so I 1642 01:09:55,010 --> 01:09:52,140 can only imagine what kind of paintings 1643 01:09:59,169 --> 01:09:55,020 you might have done 1644 01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:01,850 it's it's really something that we we 1645 01:10:05,689 --> 01:10:03,840 pushed inside the project that we don't 1646 01:10:07,850 --> 01:10:05,699 think that only one feed we have the 1647 01:10:11,030 --> 01:10:07,860 answer we need a transdisciplinary push 1648 01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:11,040 to find something reliable uh even as 1649 01:10:16,490 --> 01:10:13,920 information you if you are radar data 1650 01:10:19,250 --> 01:10:16,500 you need to have your ground uh Observer 1651 01:10:22,010 --> 01:10:19,260 data from Human intelligence to confirm 1652 01:10:25,370 --> 01:10:22,020 that red eyes and spoofs so we really 1653 01:10:26,930 --> 01:10:25,380 need to expand the field of research on 1654 01:10:29,570 --> 01:10:26,940 new APS 1655 01:10:31,250 --> 01:10:29,580 yes we need you know I absolutely you 1656 01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:31,260 need to be able to leverage all these 1657 01:10:37,550 --> 01:10:34,320 things so it's it's irrefutable whereas 1658 01:10:39,890 --> 01:10:37,560 now it sort of opens the door for the 1659 01:10:43,189 --> 01:10:39,900 sort of basement you know debunkers to 1660 01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:43,199 be able to say oh this isn't real well I 1661 01:10:46,610 --> 01:10:44,880 mean the more of these kinds of things 1662 01:10:48,110 --> 01:10:46,620 like you say when you can have 1663 01:10:51,050 --> 01:10:48,120 corroborative data from different 1664 01:10:53,810 --> 01:10:51,060 sources and and probably on that Nimitz 1665 01:10:56,750 --> 01:10:53,820 aspect there's probably a significant as 1666 01:10:59,149 --> 01:10:56,760 Lou says there's a lot more than what we 1667 01:11:02,450 --> 01:10:59,159 haven't seen other than just Kevin day's 1668 01:11:05,570 --> 01:11:02,460 radar the E2 Hawkeyes uh air traffic 1669 01:11:08,990 --> 01:11:05,580 control radar and then the the aircrafts 1670 01:11:10,669 --> 01:11:09,000 uh spoofing of its radar plus the uh the 1671 01:11:12,370 --> 01:11:10,679 visuals that they got that there's more 1672 01:11:14,570 --> 01:11:12,380 than that so I'm sure they have some 1673 01:11:16,850 --> 01:11:14,580 absolutely no spatial 1674 01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:16,860 um anyway tell people where they can 1675 01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:18,960 find you Mr Batiste 1676 01:11:25,790 --> 01:11:22,080 oh it will be on Twitter at batist 1677 01:11:28,189 --> 01:11:25,800 underscore fry that will be the my main 1678 01:11:30,649 --> 01:11:28,199 presence on the internet 1679 01:11:34,430 --> 01:11:30,659 and so and when you got when you guys do 1680 01:11:36,530 --> 01:11:34,440 end up having uh those uh conferences or 1681 01:11:38,510 --> 01:11:36,540 whatever over in France and you need two 1682 01:11:40,910 --> 01:11:38,520 people to introduce people on stage 1683 01:11:43,610 --> 01:11:40,920 Nathan and I are available we will get 1684 01:11:45,229 --> 01:11:43,620 the crowd fired up we will talk about 1685 01:11:48,229 --> 01:11:45,239 the previous guests and the next guest 1686 01:11:51,890 --> 01:11:48,239 and bring them on baby yeah that's how 1687 01:11:53,810 --> 01:11:51,900 we do it all right if I may uh if any 1688 01:11:57,169 --> 01:11:53,820 member of your audience or yourselves 1689 01:12:00,709 --> 01:11:57,179 gentlemen and Miss won't you understand 1690 01:12:03,590 --> 01:12:00,719 write a piece of article for us you are 1691 01:12:05,570 --> 01:12:03,600 more than welcome oh wow thank you cool 1692 01:12:08,030 --> 01:12:05,580 all right yeah if I let me see if uh 1693 01:12:09,890 --> 01:12:08,040 something comes to mind and I'll make 1694 01:12:11,870 --> 01:12:09,900 sure I put it through Nathan's editorial 1695 01:12:14,630 --> 01:12:11,880 process before I send it to you 1696 01:12:16,250 --> 01:12:14,640 stringent editorial process yes yes now 1697 01:12:19,310 --> 01:12:16,260 we really want that platform to be open 1698 01:12:21,649 --> 01:12:19,320 to anyone so really reach out to us we 1699 01:12:25,450 --> 01:12:21,659 are open to every contact where we are 1700 01:12:30,470 --> 01:12:28,970 I love what you're doing but let's let's 1701 01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:30,480 go with cabbie goodbyes and then I'll 1702 01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:31,679 get to a little bit of that in my 1703 01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:34,080 closing go ahead Debs 1704 01:12:38,330 --> 01:12:36,000 um so again thank you so much for 1705 01:12:40,610 --> 01:12:38,340 everything that you are doing I'm really 1706 01:12:42,770 --> 01:12:40,620 excited by a comment you made earlier 1707 01:12:44,330 --> 01:12:42,780 about disclosure 1708 01:12:46,729 --> 01:12:44,340 um I feel like we should have a giant 1709 01:12:49,910 --> 01:12:46,739 International competition and see who 1710 01:12:52,370 --> 01:12:49,920 gets the gold medal in disclosure 1711 01:12:55,070 --> 01:12:52,380 we are preparing something we are 1712 01:12:57,169 --> 01:12:55,080 preparing something yes let's do it 1713 01:13:00,110 --> 01:12:57,179 let's make it an Olympics disclosure 1714 01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:00,120 event so thank you very much again and 1715 01:13:05,330 --> 01:13:03,120 please come again oh thank you very much 1716 01:13:07,810 --> 01:13:05,340 and here with the discus throws Nathan 1717 01:13:11,689 --> 01:13:07,820 yeah we exactly let me spin real quick 1718 01:13:13,130 --> 01:13:11,699 uh we are big fans of Baptiste uh and uh 1719 01:13:15,110 --> 01:13:13,140 it's just great to have you back with us 1720 01:13:17,630 --> 01:13:15,120 uh we are watching what you're doing 1721 01:13:20,090 --> 01:13:17,640 very closely and and rooting for you and 1722 01:13:22,250 --> 01:13:20,100 uh I agree with Deb I mean if we can 1723 01:13:24,649 --> 01:13:22,260 just put our Collective will together to 1724 01:13:26,330 --> 01:13:24,659 trying to crack this uh there's not a 1725 01:13:28,669 --> 01:13:26,340 lot we can't accomplish once the world 1726 01:13:31,250 --> 01:13:28,679 gets United in trying to solve something 1727 01:13:32,810 --> 01:13:31,260 uh amazing things can happen so I'm 1728 01:13:34,850 --> 01:13:32,820 hoping that that's what occurs and I'm 1729 01:13:37,010 --> 01:13:34,860 hoping that in that effort it will unite 1730 01:13:39,709 --> 01:13:37,020 us in a way that maybe we've not been 1731 01:13:42,290 --> 01:13:39,719 United in a long time or maybe ever uh 1732 01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:42,300 which would be really terrific so um 1733 01:13:45,169 --> 01:13:43,679 thank you we'll keep keep in touch and 1734 01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:45,179 hopefully have you back again soon to 1735 01:13:51,890 --> 01:13:48,480 give us an update anytime you want 1736 01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:51,900 yeah brother uh um like you said earlier 1737 01:13:56,209 --> 01:13:54,480 um you alluded to it if you're part of 1738 01:13:58,130 --> 01:13:56,219 the UFO Twitter community and you're 1739 01:14:00,290 --> 01:13:58,140 thinking about that you want to take a 1740 01:14:03,830 --> 01:14:00,300 shot you really want to take a shot at 1741 01:14:06,350 --> 01:14:03,840 somebody in the community you know leave 1742 01:14:09,530 --> 01:14:06,360 that shot aside and just use that energy 1743 01:14:11,450 --> 01:14:09,540 towards figuring it out what can you do 1744 01:14:13,910 --> 01:14:11,460 to move it forward and Deb also 1745 01:14:17,410 --> 01:14:13,920 basically spoke to that as well and so 1746 01:14:21,470 --> 01:14:17,420 did about East I want to thank you for 1747 01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:21,480 including Cab in in in this and reaching 1748 01:14:26,270 --> 01:14:23,520 out to me to tell me about this exciting 1749 01:14:28,370 --> 01:14:26,280 thing which I immediately went and told 1750 01:14:30,830 --> 01:14:28,380 the cabbies all about it is is very 1751 01:14:33,470 --> 01:14:30,840 exciting and what you're doing for the 1752 01:14:37,550 --> 01:14:33,480 community is gigantic there's something 1753 01:14:40,490 --> 01:14:37,560 about not just talking it's doing and 1754 01:14:42,830 --> 01:14:40,500 thank goodness uh that these other folks 1755 01:14:47,450 --> 01:14:42,840 that have developed this software found 1756 01:14:49,970 --> 01:14:47,460 you uh because you do have a a a great 1757 01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:49,980 face in the community so and like I said 1758 01:14:54,290 --> 01:14:51,840 if you have other folks that are from 1759 01:14:56,149 --> 01:14:54,300 France that want to engage with us that 1760 01:14:58,070 --> 01:14:56,159 speak English that's that's our only 1761 01:14:59,870 --> 01:14:58,080 requirement until I get a French 1762 01:15:01,610 --> 01:14:59,880 Canadian on the show and then we can get 1763 01:15:04,490 --> 01:15:01,620 you know we can get somebody to 1764 01:15:06,410 --> 01:15:04,500 translate but um I'm trying to but the 1765 01:15:10,130 --> 01:15:06,420 language barrier is a real problem for 1766 01:15:11,870 --> 01:15:10,140 us no I no I know not everybody needs to 1767 01:15:13,610 --> 01:15:11,880 speak English but if there is somebody 1768 01:15:15,410 --> 01:15:13,620 you know that's our only sort of 1769 01:15:17,689 --> 01:15:15,420 limitation and I say it that way it's 1770 01:15:20,510 --> 01:15:17,699 not a requirement it's just a limitation 1771 01:15:22,370 --> 01:15:20,520 and uh but anybody that you know that 1772 01:15:25,250 --> 01:15:22,380 that you trust that you think would like 1773 01:15:29,090 --> 01:15:25,260 to speak with us uh to your game uh we 1774 01:15:31,010 --> 01:15:29,100 want this uh to be open to to many other 1775 01:15:33,169 --> 01:15:31,020 countries and and as many as we could 1776 01:15:35,090 --> 01:15:33,179 get quite frankly we would like to get 1777 01:15:37,070 --> 01:15:35,100 them on our our schedule and get their 1778 01:15:38,689 --> 01:15:37,080 thoughts and opinions and and people 1779 01:15:40,610 --> 01:15:38,699 that they've known talk to them what's 1780 01:15:43,490 --> 01:15:40,620 happened culturally and and nationally 1781 01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:43,500 for them so thank you very much Baptiste 1782 01:15:48,950 --> 01:15:46,800 we really really do appreciate it go and 1783 01:15:50,750 --> 01:15:48,960 check him out on Twitter give us a like 1784 01:15:53,689 --> 01:15:50,760 and a subscribe one love to everybody 1785 01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:53,699 out there and for uh Debs for Nathan for 1786 01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:56,640 Baptiste this is DJ Singh peace out one 1787 01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:59,280 love we'll see you down the road and as 1788 01:16:01,729 --> 01:16:00,719 always we're wondering what's up around 1789 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:01,739 the bend